[Swan]

Originally Posted by Redway

It’s come a long way but racism still exists. Not everyone’s going to be aware of the subtleties of covert/institutional racism (and as far as that goes it’s also an unfortunate tale to witness many younger black males, for example now, being seen as an inherent threat when they haven’t actually done anything but want to just get on and mine their business) but there’s no point trying to have an honest good-intentioned discussion about racism while wilfully invalidating black people’s experiences of racism on a more intrinsic level.

It's invalidating to ask the question in 2022. The saddest thing about all this -
1. Whites thinking they "understand" a black persons current/historical struggle better than other whites. Truth is, none of us will ever really know!
2. We buy into this hyperbol the media spin puts on race relations.
3. Why can't us regular people just get along, black, white, brown etc. We're all in the same boat, all just trying to get on in life. It's depressing, there has been million of normal, polite, friendly interactions with white people, black people, brown people today in this country. Yet no one sees that.

If only this much effort, time and debate went on why, and to try and make better the black teens in London stabbing each other daily.

It's sad.

Anyway, back to the football.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Swan

It's invalidating to ask the question in 2022. The saddest thing about all this -
1. Whites thinking they "understand" a black persons current/historical struggle better than other whites. Truth is, none of us will ever really know!
2. We buy into this hyperbol the media spin puts on race relations.
3. Why can't us regular people just get along, black, white, brown etc. We're all in the same boat, all just trying to get on in life. It's depressing, there has been million of normal, polite, friendly interactions with white people, black people, brown people today in this country. Yet no one sees that.

If only this much effort, time and debate went on why, and to try and make better the black teens in London stabbing each other daily.

It's sad.

Anyway, back to the football.

Why do I get the impression that animal-abuse matters more to you than racism?

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Redway

Why do I get the impression that animal-abuse matters more to you than racism?

Why do i get the impression you don't give a toss about black children being stabbed to death every day in London?

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Swan

Why do i get the impression you don't give a toss about black children being stabbed to death every day in London?

What exactly’s that got to do with racism?

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Redway

What exactly’s that got to do with racism?

What exactly does being against animal abuse have to do with being against racism? You made the weird connection, i didn't. Maybe have a look at yourself if you're comparing animal abuse to racism. Says more about you than it does me?

Both things are completely underrated.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Swan

What exactly does being against animal abuse have to do with being against racism? You made the weird connection, i didn't. Maybe have a look at yourself if you're comparing animal abuse to racism. Says more about you than it does me?

Both things are completely underrated.

well said swan

strong points made

[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well said swan

strong points made

You wouldn’t know a strong argument if a barrister come up to you and whacked you with Mike Tyson’s gloves.

[GoldHeart]

I'm confused about the whole 'transcript' , that makes no sense.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Swan

What exactly does being against animal abuse have to do with being against racism? You made the weird connection, i didn't. Maybe have a look at yourself if you're comparing animal abuse to racism. Says more about you than it does me?

Both things are completely underrated.

The fact that there’s a question-mark there completely gives away the game that this is deliberate ‘subtle’ reverse-bait. You’re not really sure of anything you’re saying here, are you?

[The Slim Reaper]

Riddle me this, if her version is unsubstantiated, why did she resign without challenging that version, and why did both the family and her godson condemn her remarks?

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Redway

The fact that there’s a question-mark there completely gives away the game that this is deliberate ‘subtle’ reverse-bait. You’re not really sure of anything you’re saying here, are you?

Im 100% sure of everything i post, and that's why instead of addressing some of the very understanding and sympathetic posts i made on this subject, you go after me with unrelated to bait, like animal abuse because you're all out of ideas and intellect to deal with actual discussion you don't agree with!

I never baited you, you telling me i feel more strongly about animal abuse than i do racism was pure bait. But people like you don't worry me, because people like you are looking for ONE answer in a situations with many questions.

Narrow mindedness is a poor trait, mate.