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If only you were more selective with what you watch, you wouldn't be in so deep with all this ****.
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Let's face it.... for every fake extreme feminism video there is, you can match it with an extreme misogynistic video.

Maybe, speak to real people and realise most people just want equality and not an "I'm better than you" rhetoric.

Youtube isn't real life, my kid watches someone who has made millions playing frigging minecraft....youtube is.not real life
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If only you were more selective with what you watch, you wouldn't be in so deep with all this ****.
Well, I'm afraid that's the negatives of freedom for you, you get to watch what you want instead of someone else telling you what you should and shouldn't watch.
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Let's face it.... for every fake extreme feminism video there is, you can match it with an extreme misogynistic video.

Maybe, speak to real people and realise most people just want equality and not an "I'm better than you" rhetoric.

Youtube isn't real life, my kid watches someone who has made millions playing frigging minecraft....youtube is.not real life
It's media. Same as that thing that comes on your screen when you turn your television on. Or the sounds from your radio. Or the print in your newspapers and magazines.

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Let's face it.... for every fake extreme feminism video there is, you can match it with an extreme misogynistic video.

Maybe, speak to real people and realise most people just want equality and not an "I'm better than you" rhetoric.

Youtube isn't real life, my kid watches someone who has made millions playing frigging minecraft....youtube is.not real life
Problem is that Youtube, Tiktok and the like can radicalise people quite easily due to the algorithm. Take little Alf, He starts by watching one or two right wing videos, this starts a rabbit hole effect, he begins consuming Fox News videos, then conspiracy videos, and now incel videos. He now believes every one of them. It's a shock and awe tactic really, blitz someone with enough of these videos and they'll start to take what's being said as gospel.

There's a lot of studies and research on it, it's quite worrying really. I remember back in the height of the Andrew Tate stuff, there was this experiment where someone made several new profiles on TikTok, and they listed themselves as being a teenage boy with no specific interests or preferences and they were basically being recommended Andrew Tate tiktoks by default within a short few minutes of scrolling.
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Well, I'm afraid that's the negatives of freedom for you, you get to watch what you want instead of someone else telling you what you should and shouldn't watch.
I'm not telling you what to watch, I've no interest in infringing on your freedumbs, I'm just saying you wouldn't be so gullible to this **** if you had the sense to be more selective with what you consume online.
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That's just silly.

Am I to take it that it's the way the argument is presented that you have a problem with?

If the same argument was made by someone more articulate, then you could understand it better?

Is it that you totally disagree with the argument? Which in that case, I'd ask you the question of, what good is there to come from bombarding impressionable youngsters with the theory that men are toxic?
I don't really care about articulation, because the whole thing is designed to be a setup from the off. What I don't understand is what you get out of it. You're a man with a vast knowledge of comedy, so I know you can't find the splicer funny, and the lego-haired interviewer is there to set up a narrative because that's what he does.

I don't think young girls are bombarded with that impression about men at all. It's important to separate social media from life. It's a fact that toxic masculinity exists, but does that make every man toxic? Absolutely not.

What is being bombarded, are videos like this where we hear the same things over and over on repeat until it can regrettably and unfortunately become ingrained as a fact into a person.

You have to get away from these grievance peddlers, telling you women hate you, trump won , the white man is oppressed etc. Most of the country and world is oppressed because without financial freedom, there is no freedom.

People need to work together to fight for more, not push blame around the table as we're divided and conquered.
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Problem is that Youtube, Tiktok and the like can radicalise people quite easily due to the algorithm. Take little Alf, He starts by watching one or two right wing videos, this starts a rabbit hole effect, he begins consuming Fox News videos, then conspiracy videos, and now incel videos. He now believes every one of them. It's a shock and awe tactic really, blitz someone with enough of these videos and they'll start to take what's being said as gospel.

There's a lot of studies and research on it, it's quite worrying really. I remember back in the height of the Andrew Tate stuff, there was this experiment where someone made several new profiles on TikTok, and they listed themselves as being a teenage boy with no specific interests or preferences and they were basically being recommended Andrew Tate tiktoks by default within a short few minutes of scrolling.
I think the point of the video in this thread OP is that people have been radicalised (as you put it) to think men are nothing but toxic.

Who would want to be with a man or even be a man with those theories. It makes men sound like horrible monsters. You're better off being a feminist or a woman.

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It's media. Same as that thing that comes on your screen when you turn your television on. Or the sounds from your radio. Or the print in your newspapers and magazines.
Yeah...I am fully aware of what it is but for the same reason I dont take any biased media in form seriously, you need to realise that some mediums are more interested in monitising content than providing factual content. Clicks meand pounds Alf...surely you know that. The creators care very little as long as you click
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These young ladies are the result of anti-man propaganda being shoved down their necks with false claims that masculinity is toxic, and being pushed as a fact.
While I do agree that there is an extreme element of society that despises men or masculine things, we don't want to fall into the trap of following Incel ideology either as they're both basically two sides of the same coin.
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Let's face it.... for every fake extreme feminism video there is, you can match it with an extreme misogynistic video.

Maybe, speak to real people and realise most people just want equality and not an "I'm better than you" rhetoric.

Youtube isn't real life, my kid watches someone who has made millions playing frigging minecraft....youtube is.not real life
So we're not all talking to an audience through a camera?

Now I'm upset.

Just to add I agree with you AnnieK.
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I don't really care about articulation, because the whole thing is designed to be a setup from the off. What I don't understand is what you get out of it. You're a man with a vast knowledge of comedy, so I know you can't find the splicer funny, and the lego-haired interviewer is there to set up a narrative because that's what he does.

I don't think young girls are bombarded with that impression about men at all. It's important to separate social media from life. It's a fact that toxic masculinity exists, but does that make every man toxic? Absolutely not.

What is being bombarded, are videos like this where we hear the same things over and over on repeat until it can regrettably and unfortunately become ingrained as a fact into a person.

You have to get away from these grievance peddlers, telling you women hate you, trump won , the white man is oppressed etc. Most of the country and world is oppressed because without financial freedom, there is no freedom.

People need to work together to fight for more, not push blame around the table as we're divided and conquered.
Apologies for over posting, but I really agree with your last paragraph.

We all need to work together and fight our leaders (verbally of course) because the Government in this country is unfortunately running rings around it's citizens with all of the division that's going on in society.
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While I do agree that there is an extreme element of society that despises men or masculine things, we don't want to fall into the trap of following Incel ideology either as they're both basically two sides of the same coin.
Who told you all that rubbish about Incel ideology?

Was it by any chance the people that want to promote masculinity as being toxic? Maybe they are the incells and are just projecting on to the rest of us?

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I watched the video Alf, they are Americans I think that says it all There can be that cross over with equality though where some women expect men to pay on the first date and hold doors open etc, and it is hard to marry that with true feminism
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Seen clips on this on TikTok - engage some critical thinking Alf, you know what "Fake News" is - these podcasts are incel/misogynist bait, they are SCRIPTED and specifically designed to make the (paid) girls on them look stupid/cruel/whatever while the bearded chump interviewing them plays the voice of reason.

They're bad enough on their own without a SECOND angry little chump passing comment over the top of them in a YouTube video. He's truly, truly awful. Like nails on a chalk board.

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Who told you all that rubbish about Incel ideology?

Was it by any chance the people that want to promote masculinity as being toxic? Maybe they are the incells and are just projecting on to the rest of us?
Alf I don't think you've grasped what "incel" means?

I won't beat around the bush; "Incel" is short for "Involuntarily Celibate" and refers to a group of sad (mostly) young men who are frustrated and angry that no one will have sex with them.

"Maybe THEY are secretly the incels!" doesn't make any sense.
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The girl who dumped the date because he wouldn’t pay 3 dollars for a cheese slice was the best
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[What's a Femoid?

Particularly, it uses feminist critical discourse
analysis to explore perceptions created by the term
“femoid,” a pejorative generated by incels to refer to women]



Alf,
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not part of us, in the UK


To be fair if you put USA: Femoids
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When you hate women so much that you even lose Arista...
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I do not hate women.


I made the Working Women thread


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Arista loves the UK more than he enjoys misogyny so clarification was needed here. It's the arista hierarchy of needs.
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So all's good then

The excuses have been made and the outcome was.

Alf, stop watching this and watch the new series on Netflix instead.

Until the next male World champion in women's sport, I'll stop triggering you.
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Aren’t these supposed to be some of the people fighting for women’s right by hating and attacking trans people
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I don't see what point you're making, any chance of an explanation?
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