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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

While I do agree that there is an extreme element of society that despises men or masculine things, we don't want to fall into the trap of following Incel ideology either as they're both basically two sides of the same coin.

Who told you all that rubbish about Incel ideology?

Was it by any chance the people that want to promote masculinity as being toxic? Maybe they are the incells and are just projecting on to the rest of us?