[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by MTVN

You have defended Hamas, and even basically expressed support for them, in this very thread so I think my framing was legitimate. And every statement acknowledging the horror of the attacks has always been followed by a 'but'.

You keep talking about what Israel has done as if there is no distinction between state and citizen which is the exact problem. Hamas don't make that distinction either hence they consider every Israeli a legitimate target including civilians and even including children. Can you show me a time when Israelis have carried an innocent woman's mutilated body through the streets to cheers and celebrations?

I have said the events are horrific, but I also understand that a country being occupied has a right to fight back against the subjugation they are forced to endure, and they have been so thoroughly trod upon, that they basically have no way to fight back on their own. I pointed out the 2018 march of silence they undertook, and no one gave a sh1t about them then. Desperation doesn't disappear. Absolutely zero acknowledgement for the true conditions in Palestine. The sanctions imposed on Palestine by Israel also fail to discern between citizens and the military, with the citizens being picked off the streets and tortured. I guess that's crickets though, right?

Then you tried to make it an anti-Semitism issue, which is the most cynical and appalling of your points.

Please explain the humane way you can fight back against an oppressor on your doorstep and in your country depriving you of the most basic of human rights, then we can talk.