[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Would somebody with Austim be so self aware as to say that it "is true that I am heartless to some extent"?

Yes if he’s Aspergers


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Yes. I think there's people why may have it, but don't know.
To be honest I also have some of those traits. But who knows?

Well EVERYONE has similar traits to varying degrees


It’s commonly said that everyone is on the spectrum just at massively varying levels .


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[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well EVERYONE has similar traits to varying degrees


It’s commonly said that everyone is on the spectrum just at massively varying levels .


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Socially awkward, prefer to be on my own. Yep that's me.

[Vanessa]

From Facebook. Apparently his friend said Jordan is on the spectrum. I think it's very obvious.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

From Facebook. Apparently his friend said Jordan is on the spectrum. I think it's very obvious.

Well apparently his mother said he isn’t.
She should know best.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

From Facebook. Apparently his friend said Jordan is on the spectrum. I think it's very obvious.

His friend would be more accepting and not on denial like mum ( may be )


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Well apparently his mother said he isn’t.
She should know best.

See my previous explanation


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[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

See my previous explanation


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Nah. Why would his mother be in denial?
It’s nothing to be ashamed of.

[Liam-]

His mother wouldn’t know but some randos on the internet know his brain inside and out, it’s unreal

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Nah. Why would his mother be in denial?
It’s nothing to be ashamed of.

I’ve worked with Autistic teenagers and parents for nearly 30 years

It isn’t uncommon for some parents to deny that their child is on the spectrum

Sometimes just one of the parents sometime both

It is what it is ..




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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Liam-

His mother wouldn’t know but some randos on the internet know his brain inside and out, it’s unreal

See my previous explanation


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[Redway]

Maybe but I disagree with the premise you’ve used to land on that conclusion. Being socially introverted and particularly uncomfortable in groups to boot is no more a sign of autism than not being able to keep still and non-bored in the absence of social stimuli or commit to one meaningful social interaction at a time represents ADHD or a histrionic personality. Let’s just be clear on that and not be tempted to over-pathologise a perfectly normal personality dimension that has its pros and cons just like social extroversion does.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Socially awkward, prefer to be on my own. Yep that's me.

Preferring to be alone is not a sign of a mental illness or being on the spectrum. I agree that something’s up with Jordan but the way you’re making that point is reinforcing the erroneous modern Western idea that social introversion is a bad thing, a negative trait to be overcome and more inherently abnormal. That’s not the case.

I’m more on the lookout for pathological gossips and narcissistic types myself (people who do the most harm) than random dudes who just happen to be a little socially awkward. Stop this over-pathologisation of introversion. It is not inherently a disease.

Jordan sure is a dick but that’s not because he has autism or Asperger’s (assuming he’s even on the spectrum any more-so than the average male). As far as we know that’s just him. Maybe his mum’s in denial or isn’t but has respect for his dignity and right to medical confidentiality (which we all have), maybe she just knows him a lot better than we do (she did give birth to him after all) and knows that he actually doesn’t particularly belong to any neurodivergent fold. Maybe he’s just a dry, toxic weirdo. Maybe he’s actually more positively normal than we give him credit for but this is just the persona he’s adopted for Big Brother. It’s hard to say, because none of us actually know him well enough. But when you do know someone, it’s more a matter of what you know than think or assume about them, because you actually know and don’t need to guess so much about their personality or neurotype. You know because you know, not because such-and-such is just what you think or what someone else who similarly doesn’t know the person thinks. If the people closest to him think he’s normal, then what they say is going to be worth more than the opinions of complete strangers looking at him through a very narrow lens on reality TV. They’re the ones who know him. We don’t, not really.

I know we’re obsessed with labelling everyone and pathologising every natural quirk under the sun these days but let’s not. I like and respect you, V., but this thread really isn’t it.

[Northern Monkey]

Could just be his personality? We all have different ones, it doesn’t mean there’s necessarily some undiagnosed condition going on.

[GlitterUK]

Jordan is unique.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Liam-

His mother wouldn’t know but some randos on the internet know his brain inside and out, it’s unreal

Seems you think you know him too he maybe many things but cruel is not one of them.

[Liam-]

His behaviour was cruel, idc if you don’t want to see it, but it was

[Maru]

This man keeps coming to mind. It's an impulse I must share.