[Lostie!]

Am I the only one who finds publicly speculating on whether somebody is autistic to be really bad taste?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Am I the only one who finds publicly speculating on whether somebody is autistic to be really bad taste?

There's just similarities with people with autism, I don't see it in bad taste .

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

There's just similarities with people with autism, I don't see it in bad taste .

Yes. I think there's people why may have it, but don't know.
To be honest I also have some of those traits. But who knows?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Yes. I think there's people why may have it, but don't know.
To be honest I also have some of those traits. But who knows?

Well EVERYONE has similar traits to varying degrees


It’s commonly said that everyone is on the spectrum just at massively varying levels .


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[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well EVERYONE has similar traits to varying degrees


It’s commonly said that everyone is on the spectrum just at massively varying levels .


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Socially awkward, prefer to be on my own. Yep that's me.

[Vanessa]

From Facebook. Apparently his friend said Jordan is on the spectrum. I think it's very obvious.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

From Facebook. Apparently his friend said Jordan is on the spectrum. I think it's very obvious.

Well apparently his mother said he isn’t.
She should know best.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

From Facebook. Apparently his friend said Jordan is on the spectrum. I think it's very obvious.

His friend would be more accepting and not on denial like mum ( may be )


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[Redway]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Socially awkward, prefer to be on my own. Yep that's me.

Preferring to be alone is not a sign of a mental illness or being on the spectrum. I agree that something’s up with Jordan but the way you’re making that point is reinforcing the erroneous modern Western idea that social introversion is a bad thing, a negative trait to be overcome and more inherently abnormal. That’s not the case.

I’m more on the lookout for pathological gossips and narcissistic types myself (people who do the most harm) than random dudes who just happen to be a little socially awkward. Stop this over-pathologisation of introversion. It is not inherently a disease.

Jordan sure is a dick but that’s not because he has autism or Asperger’s (assuming he’s even on the spectrum any more-so than the average male). As far as we know that’s just him. Maybe his mum’s in denial or isn’t but has respect for his dignity and right to medical confidentiality (which we all have), maybe she just knows him a lot better than we do (she did give birth to him after all) and knows that he actually doesn’t particularly belong to any neurodivergent fold. Maybe he’s just a dry, toxic weirdo. Maybe he’s actually more positively normal than we give him credit for but this is just the persona he’s adopted for Big Brother. It’s hard to say, because none of us actually know him well enough. But when you do know someone, it’s more a matter of what you know than think or assume about them, because you actually know and don’t need to guess so much about their personality or neurotype. You know because you know, not because such-and-such is just what you think or what someone else who similarly doesn’t know the person thinks. If the people closest to him think he’s normal, then what they say is going to be worth more than the opinions of complete strangers looking at him through a very narrow lens on reality TV. They’re the ones who know him. We don’t, not really.

I know we’re obsessed with labelling everyone and pathologising every natural quirk under the sun these days but let’s not. I like and respect you, V., but this thread really isn’t it.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Am I the only one who finds publicly speculating on whether somebody is autistic to be really bad taste?

Nope it’s disgusting and it’s only being done to find an excuse for his bad behaviour, the attempted linking of cruelty to autism is wildly inappropriate

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Nope it’s disgusting and it’s only being done to find an excuse for his bad behaviour, the attempted linking of cruelty to autism is wildly inappropriate

Very much so.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Nope it’s disgusting and it’s only being done to find an excuse for his bad behaviour, the attempted linking of cruelty to autism is wildly inappropriate

No it's not making excuses for his bad behaviour. Well not on my part anyway.....I just noticed he is very cold and socially awkward at times , the guy talked about his dad or was it stepdad?... Overdosing and his face showed zero emotion, it was like he was making a dark joke about it in his usual deadpan style.

And Jordan has done things that has annoyed me , he's also hard to read.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

No it's not making excuses for his bad behaviour. Well not on my part anyway.....I just noticed he is very cold and socially awkward at times , the guy talked about his dad or was it stepdad?... Overdosing and his face showed zero emotion, it was like he was making a dark joke about it in his usual deadpan style.

And Jordan has done things that has annoyed me , he's also hard to read.