[Livia]

Originally Posted by DemRed

What nonsense. I mentioned that my farther-in-law as a small Jewish boy being brought to England from Poland, was warned, when he started school, not to let his classmates know he was Jewish.
You came back with how your grandmother, after surviving the death camps was warmly welcomed in the UK. So you, wanted to make a point that the Brits (because they were warm and welcoming to your grandma) were not antisemitic, as I had suggested.
LT then comes back on your side, saying there's no evidence unless you have a link. I send him a link from Jerusalem center of public affairs and he attempts to de-bunk that and so I sent the one that you are remarking to.

I'm very well informed. I can speak some Hebrew as well as some Arabic. I have studied both Torah and Talmud. Some years ago, I studied with a Jewish Rabbi because I considered (very seriously) adopting the faith I had inherited.
I have been to both Israel and Palestine. I love both Israel and Palestine but as a Judo-Christian, I felt more welcome in Palestine than Israel.

The benefit I had was, whilst I may of been born with Jewish rights, I was never raised with a Zionist ideology. I'm sure if I had been, I would feel like you do.

The put downs aren't necessary. Its arrogant to suggest I know nothing about a subject I've studied for many years.

You know nothing about me nor how I was raised. You keep telling me how well informed you are but I'm yet to see any tangible evidence of that. I remember you considered yourself equally well informed about whatever subject was being discussed in the past.

[arista]

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by DemRed

When I came back in here, this thread was already half way though and I've only read the thread onward from there. I think anyone supporting Hamas are confused, but then I think anyone supporting the IDF are confused as well. Both are terrorists, both have terrorized and for 70 odd years, one of them has got away with systematic terrorism before the world woke up.

Most people say "Israel and Hamas" when referring to the combatants, so as to remove Palestinians from blame.

How would you feel about saying "IDF and Hamas", removing Israelis from blame?

[arista]

Labour Party Jonathon Ashworth MP.
(Shadow Paymaster General)
claims they will back Biden
in saying that there will be
no selling of UK-made arms to Israel.

If they, attack Refah in full.


Ref: BBC1HD Laura Live.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

Labour Party Jonathon Ashworth MP.
(Shadow Paymaster General)
claims they will back Biden
in saying that there will be
no selling of UK-made arms to Israel.

If they, attack Refah in full.


Ref: BBC1HD Laura Live.

Jonathon Ashworth is a slimy faced imbecile


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[bots]

It's all political manoeuvring to satisfy voters later in the year. All the USA are doing is restricting a few of their larger weapons, it means nothing in the scheme of things

[The Slim Reaper]

Most moral army in the world, remember.

[Crimson Dynamo]

"according to CNN"

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Most moral army in the world, remember.

Remember? I'd literally never heard it referred to as such until people started saying it sarcastically at some point over the weekend.

But I suppose it has the same energy as "Religion of Peace."

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Remember? I'd literally never heard it referred to as such until people started saying it sarcastically at some point over the weekend.

But I suppose it has the same energy as "Religion of Peace."

Your ignorance isn't my problem.

Youtube video

Jainism is the only religion of peace.

[DemRed]

Originally Posted by Livia

You know nothing about me nor how I was raised. You keep telling me how well informed you are but I'm yet to see any tangible evidence of that. I remember you considered yourself equally well informed about whatever subject was being discussed in the past.

I never said I knew jot about you. I've seen you putting others down as well as me and can only conclude that you get some kick out of that.

[DemRed]

The best place to see what's going on is Telegram. It explains why so many people are now angry with the Israeli government.
Whilst the IDF loves TiKToK, it also loves Telegram and posts videos of the atrocities they are proud of.
If you watch the crude videos on Telegram, you will unfortunately see things you never wanted to see. This is probably the first time in history we are witnesses to blatant war crimes literally as they happen. In the past we've heard about how brutal regimes and even seen photographs but we now have access to horrors unfolding on a daily basis, that are unimaginable.

MSM show us nothing, just like they showed us nothing about previous invasions and war atrocities. Whilst the Israeli Lobby aren't as powerful in the UK as they are in the U.S, they still have a lot of umf about what's printed.

[Beso]

I remember seeing hamas beheading a woman with a garden spade as they made her husband watch just after 0ct 7th.....

[Crimson Dynamo]

[DemRed]

I hope the hostages are safe and they get out alive, but this bombing has been so catastrophic, along with starvation and disease from polluted water, I fear its not going to be many.
This is why thousands are protesting in Israel, including families of the hostages who are regularly fired on with water-cannons. The longer this goes on, the less likely they are going to get their families back.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by DemRed

I hope the hostages are safe and they get out alive, but this bombing has been so catastrophic, along with starvation and disease from polluted water, I fear its not going to be many.
This is why thousands are protesting in Israel, including families of the hostages who are regularly fired on with water-cannons. The longer this goes on, the less likely they are going to get their families back.

That's all very sadly true DemRed.

I just see this getting worse, even moreso as long as Netanyahu stays in control.
It's frightening and desperately sad for the ordinary citizens of both sides.

Netanyahu won't even listen to his strongest allies.
Only the dangerous voices making up his despicable government.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by DemRed

I hope the hostages are safe and they get out alive, but this bombing has been so catastrophic, along with starvation and disease from polluted water, I fear its not going to be many.
This is why thousands are protesting in Israel, including families of the hostages who are regularly fired on with water-cannons. The longer this goes on, the less likely they are going to get their families back.

You've kind of twisted what happened on memorial day...there were 2 rallies, one was against Netanyahu, the other one, the families of the hostages one was still calling for the return of the living and dead hostages, and for there to be no wavering until they are all back so they can be reunited with family or laid to rest by family.


Why dont the Palestinians protest for the release of the hostages?

[Crimson Dynamo]

YOu would think their neighbours Syria, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon would help or at least some of the rich gulf states

looks like the Palestine people have few friends in that area, which is a puzzle

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

YOu would think their neighbours Syria, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon would help or at least some of the rich gulf states

looks like the Palestine people have few friends in that area, which is a puzzle

It's not a very big "puzzle" - how do you imagine these countries got rich?

Do you need a hand with these as well Trumpet

[Crimson Dynamo]

At this very moment, Hamas terrorists are still holding innocent Israelis hostage.

These people decided to tear down posters of those hostages and stuff them in bin liners.

This incident took place yesterday at 18:00 on Limes Avenue in Golders Green, north London.

If you have further information, please e-mail contact@antisemitism.org

Jews aren’t even free to remember kidnapped Jews in Golders Green.

VIDEO BELOW

https://x.com/nice_cuppa/status/1790040081295683960

[Crimson Dynamo]

The UN now says 50% fewer women and children have been killed than previously reported.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/un-revise...l?guccounter=1

[Liam-]

The ‘good guys’ btw

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Liam-

The ‘good guys’ btw

Who ever said random non-government thugs were the good guys?

[Beso]

71 percent of the Palestinian population supported Hamas's actions on oct 7th, maybe they see it only fair to take 71 percent of the aid.

[DemRed]

Originally Posted by parmnion

You've kind of twisted what happened on memorial day...there were 2 rallies, one was against Netanyahu, the other one, the families of the hostages one was still calling for the return of the living and dead hostages, and for there to be no wavering until they are all back so they can be reunited with family or laid to rest by family.


Why dont the Palestinians protest for the release of the hostages?

I haven't twisted anything! Protests haven't just happened on memorial day. There are regular protests.

As for the Palestinians, if they aren't dead, injured, starved or diseased and if they still had their homes and access to warm clothing, who knows what they would do, but right now, they have their own despair.