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Originally Posted by Cherie

I don't think its disingenuous to claim that most normal people can seperate normal Israelis from their government.... the public vote speak for themselves ...the bullying of that 20 year old girl by fellow contestants was low, even you must agree with that surely? Also after the Manchester bombing I seem to recall Mancunians coming together against terrorism, that was allowed but your bog standard Israeli it seems are supposed to take mass massacre on the chin...because of....something something Nethanyahu

I don't recall groups of Mancs carpet bombing any hospitals or obliterating entire cities in retribution to be fair so I don't see how this is a helpful comparison, other than to point out that many nations have experienced terrorist catastrophes and not used it as justification for the careless bombing of civilians.

Anyway... I've gone over why the standalone number is irrelevant as a statistic in the absence of a directly opposite choice in the Eurovision threads but that doesn't really matter here: if you're right and the vote reflects people separating "Israeli individuals from Israeli state" (as I agree, everyone absolutely should, for all nations) it's still or perhaps even more disingenuous to imply that the Eurovision vote demonstrates widespread public approval for Israel's military/political actions.

And thus, has no bearing on the simple fact that international support for Israel (as a state) is potentially at an all-time low. Which was really my main point.