[Liam-]

I thought people were against foreigners going to other countries and causing trouble, maybe the Dutch were just concerned citizens protecting their streets from violent invaders?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I thought people were against foreigners going to other countries and causing trouble, maybe the Dutch were just concerned citizens protecting their streets from violent invaders?

The Dutch?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

My bad, I should have been more specific. So when one team/country goes into another country and attacks and instigates, when has that ever been labelled as both sides? I don't remember the English hooligans in the france WC being excused. Wasn't it called a scurge on the country or something like that?

Instead this has been turned around so that now it's the hooligan perpetrators who are the real victims.

I'd say that happens quite often because there's normally a section of the other fans perfectly happy to indulge in the violence

In fact that France world cup is a good example because English and Russian fans were both responsible for violence however a lot of innocent English fans got caught up in it as well and attacked by Russian hooligans.

Presumably we're not saying that all Tel Aviv fans were violent racists so it follows that not all of them deserved to be attacked and harassed last night. There's clearly a lot of concern amongst European leaders and authorities with what happened

[Livia]

I wondered how long it would take for this thread to turn into a series of pro-Hamas, anti-Jewish rants and the answer was... Not long at all.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

I wondered how long it would take for this thread to turn into a series of pro-Hamas, anti-Jewish rants and the answer was... Not long at all.

Literally was inevitable

Really worrying

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Beso

Your algorithm takes you to them.

I dont see any on my suggestions.

That's because I do have a genuine curiosity about extreme political viewpoints, it does fascinate me I won't lie about that.

And in Melonie Mac's case for example, I get to see someone attractive saying obscene things rather than a product of incest saying the same things.

So that can be a bonus with extreme political viewpoints, they always find attractive women to vouch for them.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Oh that's okay then

And it's perfectly possible for groups on both sides to have racist motivations which is Mocks point and is surely self evident

Exactly, which you've worded much better than I have.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Not sure I get you, football hooliganism is frequently a both sides issue with rival fan bases clashing

Exactly.

Just look at Rangers and Celtic fan clashes as an example.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

My bad, I should have been more specific. So when one team/country goes into another country and attacks and instigates, when has that ever been labelled as both sides? I don't remember the English hooligans in the france WC being excused. Wasn't it called a scurge on the country or something like that?

Instead this has been turned around so that now it's the hooligan perpetrators who are the real victims.

Hooligans aren't victims either imo.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

That's because I do have a genuine curiosity about extreme political viewpoints, it does fascinate me I won't lie about that.

And in Melonie Mac's case for example, I get to see someone attractive saying obscene things rather than a product of incest saying the same things.

So that can be a bonus with extreme political viewpoints, they always find attractive women to vouch for them.

Who's she?

Can she give my penis something katie Hopkins couldnt?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Exactly.

Just look at Rangers and Celtic fan clashes as an example.

Celtic and rangers clashes are between groups of mentally inbred slum dwellers, each side dependent of which slum you live in.

Outside of that its banter in a pub between friends.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Beso

Who's she?

Can she give my penis something katie Hopkins couldnt?

She basically is a Political Streamer that has extreme views about "wokeness" in Video Games.

I would certainly say that Melonie Mac is more my type than Katie Hopkins, but you might feel differently tbf.

Here's one of her videos if you're interested.

Youtube video

She's insane (even when she makes a good point lol) but I really can't deny that she is really attractive imo.

[Beso]

No..I will stick to my own disappointment at myself thank you

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Beso

Celtic and rangers clashes are between groups of mentally inbred slum dwellers, each side dependent of which slum you live in.

Outside of that its banter in a pub between friends.

I'll take your word for it.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Beso

No..I will stick to my own disappointment at myself thank you

I understand where you're coming from.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I understand where you're coming from.

Chance would be a fine thing.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Beso

Chance would be a fine thing.

What do you mean?

[arista]

[A British-Jewish man known only as
Aaron was left with blood streaming down
his face after he stepped in to help
an Israeli football fan from being attacked
by an anti-Jewish gang in Amsterdam
on Thursday evening]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tine-gang.html

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by arista

[A British-Jewish man known only as
Aaron was left with blood streaming down
his face after he stepped in to help
an Israeli football fan from being attacked
by an anti-Jewish gang in Amsterdam
on Thursday evening]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tine-gang.html

It’s just a bit of blood. He said mean words and probably deserved it

[Nicky91]

yes anti-jewish gang better way to describe these thugs, either that or pro-hamas


these thugs aren't genuinely caring about the palestinian civilians either, they same as hamas have no humanity in them whatsoever



that said


both sides have been in the wrong this particular evening


i mean imagine interrupting a moment of silence for those innocent flood victims in Valencia, only cuz Spain stopped supplying weapons to Israel

[Nicky91]

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...np-2024-11-08/

of course that tiny tool shows up in my nation, not surprising at all (even more not surprising him meeting up with Wilders)





thank you ******* Pro-Hamas thugs in my nation, you give this tool more food for thought to keep his genocidal antics going in gaza

[Crimson Dynamo]

Multiculturalism is a central tenet of liberalism, liberalism is not a central tenet
of multiculturalism.

The more that Europe continues to import its population
from countries where anti-Semitism is endemic, the more anti-Semitic Europe’s population will become.

The same applies to maltreatment of women, homophobia, sectarianism,
censorship and communalism. Liberals, of which I am one, have deluded
themselves that mass immigration is a story only of cultural enrichment,
bringing valued skills, exotic cuisines, innovative music, colourful fashions
and new languages.

Many immigrants do enrich the West but others come bearing the customs
and beliefs that shaped the societies they were desperate to leave. The
challenge lies in maximising the former while minimising the latter. That is
impossible unless we take the ‘mass’ out of mass migration.

The West is too deep in its civilisational nap to hear the wake-up calls. When
organised anti-Semitic thuggery returns to the streets of Amsterdam, we
prefer to tell ourselves that it’s just ‘clashes’ between football supporters, or
that Israeli fans who reportedly tore down Palestinian flags or sang anti-Arab
chants provoked the violence. Note that offensive words, which we always
say do not excuse violence, now excuse violence. Note that attacking a
minority or nationality because of the actions of some of their number, which
we always decry as racism and xenophobia, are no longer racism an
xenophobia. With what timorous ease we drop our principles to show our
enemies that our hands are up.


https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...of-liberalism/

[Livia]

Great post @Crimson Dynamo. I'm very worried about the excuses people make for this kind of violence and know it's not long until it's an everyday thing on the streets of London and other big cities. I don't wear a Star of David anymore since being spat at by a Muslim on the Tube, don't want to chance a fist in the face. Still... Slim Reaper told me I'm afraid of my own shadow, so... I guess everything's okay after all.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Livia

Great post @Crimson Dynamo. I'm very worried about the excuses people make for this kind of violence and know it's not long until it's an everyday thing on the streets of London and other big cities. I don't wear a Star of David anymore since being spat at by a Muslim on the Tube, don't want to chance a fist in the face. Still... Slim Reaper told me I'm afraid of my own shadow, so... I guess everything's okay after all.

i didn't know that, sorry to hear that Livia

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i didn't know that, sorry to hear that Livia

Thanks Nicky, I'm fine though. Just makes me more resolute not to put up with it.