[arista]

Originally Posted by Maru

Our local neighborhood has them underground from the neighborhood box to our homes, but the transmission lines and everything up to that point is above ground. It's very expensive to put something like that underground. We have a high water table and then also being the entire city is on a flood plain, there's more obstacles there as well... they've been doing concrete poles here strategically and most they replace are a mixture (I think it's composite material).

Yes, it will cost more
to go underground.

Sealed pipes away from any
Sun damage on them.
Not good in a Flood Plain.

To avoid this Portugal Horror


Maru, imagine being Dumped in
In the Middle of nowhere,
in that heat.
As the Train needed the Electric Power

[arista]

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[arista]

BBC News Text:
["Net zero blamed for blackout chaos"
reads the Daily Telegraph's main headline,
saying 53% of Spain's energy was being
supplied by solar before the power cuts.
"Starmer and EU to sign anti-Trump pact
in releationship reset" the paper also reports.]

[arista]

[Maru]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes, it will cost more
to go underground.

Sealed pipes away from any
Sun damage on them.
Not good in a Flood Plain.

To avoid this Portugal Horror


Maru, imagine being Dumped in
In the Middle of nowhere,
in that heat.
As the Train needed the Electric Power

Yes, we're a car nation, so the problem is always going to be gas stations are empty from people filling up their vehicles and also their generators. Our generator also takes propane so would have to worry about finding this also. It also covers natural gas, but then it's $100-$150/day for whole house from what I've heard from neighbors and definitely the most expensive option... so last resort...

Originally Posted by arista

BBC News Text:
["Net zero blamed for blackout chaos"
reads the Daily Telegraph's main headline,
saying 53% of Spain's energy was being
supplied by solar before the power cuts.
"Starmer and EU to sign anti-Trump pact
in releationship reset" the paper also reports.]

They blamed eco power here during the Texas grid failure, but then it's reported that it was eco power that was overperforming and helping it to not fall apart while other methods went offline or were reconnecting generation. But it's diversified green energy: windmills, battery storage, solar, etc... 53% dependency is very high for just solar.

[arista]

BBC News Text:
["Bad hols vibes," writes the Daily Star as it
says "Portugal blames Spain" for the blackouts.]

[Ammi]

…it’s still not totally clear what the cause of the blackouts …I know that atmospheric phenomenons have been mentioned but so far as I’m aware that’s unconfirmed…I hope all is not too grim and stressful for Jess atm..

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…it’s still not totally clear what the cause of the blackouts …I know that atmospheric phenomenons have been mentioned but so far as I’m aware that’s unconfirmed…I hope all is not too grim and stressful for Jess atm..

The Tech Fella
on Ch4HDnews said they Bounced
which is dangerous
so it auto shut down.

Having Electricity High in the Sky
is Stupid

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

The Tech Fella
on Ch4HDnews said they Bounced
which is dangerous
so it auto shut down.

Having Electricity High in the Sky
is Stupid

…well, whatever the cause it’s obviously extremely stressful for those living there and going forward now, maybe underground cables will be looked at also…but as always, cost is always a factor with these things, isn’t it…

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…well, whatever the cause it’s obviously extremely stressful for those living there and going forward now, maybe underground cables will be looked at also…but as always, cost is always a factor with these things, isn’t it…

Yes the Costings

stopped underground
safer cables in pipes

[arista]

GMBHD itv Live

Spain is saying it was a France Connection
That started this.

[Ammi]

…even if/when beginning in France, it doesn’t have to impact Spain in the way it did so that’s all just pointless …rather than looking at real possible ways of trying to prevent anything similar in the future if it was weather/atmospheric related…

[Ammi]

…the cheers when the lights came back on in Madrid…

Youtube video

[Nicky91]

i completely understand Portugal for blaming Spain, since they are all on the same power grid

[Nicky91]

could also just be improper maintenance, due to budget cuts or something


these cables need good maintenance work every now and then




also a cyber attack is possible yes, but somehow i always think they pull off more precision attacks at governmental buildings, airports, rather than the power grid of an entire nation


like last year here, a cyberattack at our Schiphol airport, you couldn't acquire your tickets through the computers at the terminals, which was due to a faulty update in a untrustworthy and cheap antivirus system



i get why people think of cyberattacks but idk, i myself more think of other possible causes too

[Nicky91]

and you can say but everything went out the same time


yes, that is a sort of ''Domino effect'' if you got faulty cables and those are all connected with each other, then yes, exactly this will happen



which also explains the moment the power restored again, maybe they found the culprit, and they replaced a cable, and then yes everything returns back to normal-ish

but my advice for the Red Electrica company would be try to prevent this from happening again, maybe some failsafes if possible idk, i'm no electrician but that should be possible i think, to place certain alternate power lines as a backup

[Jessica.]

Our power has been stable overnight and the ice packs I put in the fridge did the job because everything is still fresh x

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Our power has been stable overnight and the ice packs I put in the fridge did the job because everything is still fresh x

That's good.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Back in March Brussels instructed the public to stockpile 72 hours of food. Coincidence?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Our power has been stable overnight and the ice packs I put in the fridge did the job because everything is still fresh x

Oh good to hear

[Redway]

I heard.

[Cherie]

Marks and Sparks have had a major Cyber attack that has put their online orderings system out of action, its been out for a week, it has been pretty far down the News cycle

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Back in March Brussels instructed the public to stockpile 72 hours of food. Coincidence?

No I dont think so, we should take this as a bit of a wake up call to have some cash indoors and food and water