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Crimson Dynamo · 13-11-2009, 04:01 PM

Some chap on Twitter said that Stephen Fry was a tiny bit dull in terms of what he writes on Twitter (some would say that IS Twitter) and even tho SF has 900K followers he threw his toys out of the pram and then announced that he was quitting Twitter..blah blah

Some of his friends naturally came to his defence, one, Alan Davis referred to the original complainant as a "wanker" and a "moron"

My question is, is there any good in criticising one person for what he or she says by calling them names at the same time. Apart from Fry being a big sissy etc (oops) is the chap not allowed to say Fry is dull without being called a moron?

Fry himself did not allow Jan Moir an opinion before he started slinging insults at her and in some ways just debasing himself in the manner of what caused his rage. What has happened to free speech in this age of communication?

Stu · 13-11-2009, 04:07 PM

Nothing has happened to free speech. Jan Moir did not suddenly loose her voice in a freak accident involving an umbrella and a bar of soap when Stephen Fry blasted her.

The chap CAN say what he thinks, but he CAN also be subject to being called a moron. I don't see the big deal. Opinion and free speech works both ways, and expands to include insults.

Crimson Dynamo · 13-11-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

Nothing has happened to free speech. Jan Moir did not suddenly loose her voice in a freak accident involving an umbrella and a bar of soap when Stephen Fry blasted her.

The chap CAN say what he thinks, but he CAN also be subject to being called a moron. I don't see the big deal. Opinion and free speech works both ways, and expands to include insults.

but can you not see the irony?

Stu · 13-11-2009, 04:11 PM

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but can you not see the irony?

No? They can say whatever the fuck they like. That's ... the idea of free speech.

InOne · 13-11-2009, 04:12 PM

Dunno if this is really a serious topic???? lol you need a calm a bit leather

Crimson Dynamo · 13-11-2009, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

No? They can say whatever the fuck they like. That's ... the idea of free speech.

but taking the moral high ground when your heigh above sea level is identical if not lower?

Lauren · 13-11-2009, 04:14 PM

Fry apologised and based his reaction on his Bipolar disorder, which is fair enough.

Stu · 13-11-2009, 04:14 PM

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but taking the moral high ground when your heigh above sea level is identical if not lower?

I would debate with you in what I'm sure would be a fantastic and thought provoking discussion, but I have absolutely no idea what you are saying.

Crimson Dynamo · 13-11-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

I would debate with you in what I'm sure would be a fantastic and thought provoking discussion, but I have absolutely no idea what you are saying.

There is little point being affronted by a person and their pov if your reaction is equal too or exceeds that which offended you in the first place.

Stu · 13-11-2009, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

There is little point being affronted by a person and their pov if your reaction is equal too or exceeds that which offended you in the first place.

Well he had license to be offended I guess because ... well ... he was offended, and acted accordingly.

Fry was not the one who wrote that idiotic, misguided article. It was Jan Moir. And many, many people made it quiet clear what an idiotic, misguided article it was. That had to be expected. Nobody was denying her the right to free speech, they were just expressing outrage.

Which they are entitled to. It's called free speech. So free speech still exists ... yeah.

This topic was hardly made, by chance, to just bring up the Jan Moir thing again was it?

Crimson Dynamo · 13-11-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

Well he had license to be offended I guess because ... well ... he was offended, and acted accordingly.

Fry was not the one who wrote that idiotic, misguided article. It was Jan Moir. And many, many people made it quiet clear what an idiotic, misguided article it was. That had to be expected. Nobody was denying her the right to free speech, they were just expressing outrage.

Which they are entitled to. It's called free speech. So free speech still exists ... yeah.

I knew I could count on your vote

now about that hair..

Stu · 13-11-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I knew I could count on your vote

now about that hair..

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Originally Posted by Stu

a fantastic and thought provoking discussion

Crimson Dynamo · 13-11-2009, 04:41 PM

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and the problem seems to be that you are the main contributor!

Shaun · 13-11-2009, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Apart from Fry being a big sissy etc (oops)

you're such a joke.

Stu · 13-11-2009, 04:44 PM

Why don't you make a little quiz that tries to force people into giving an answer that pleases you like you did with that marvelous swearing thread.

arista · 13-11-2009, 04:49 PM

Fry is not Tough Enough
he can Dish it out OK
start political battles
but as soon as posters say they hate him
he can not handle it.

Crimson Dynamo · 13-11-2009, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

Why don't you make a little quiz that tries to force people into giving an answer that pleases you like you did with that marvelous swearing thread.

That was so obvious I did not think anyone would..... oops

(he is really going to fall for my "Can we be sure evolution is a myth" thread tomorrow hehe)

Crimson Dynamo · 13-11-2009, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Fry is not Tough Enough
he can Dish it out OK
start political battles
but as soon as posters say they hate him
he can not handle it.

finally, some sense

Stu · 13-11-2009, 04:53 PM

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(he is really going to fall for my "Can we be sure evolution is a myth" thread tomorrow hehe)

Wait until you catch a glimpse of the ''hands up who likes LeatherTrumpet?'' thread. That one is a killer.

Crimson Dynamo · 13-11-2009, 04:58 PM

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Wait until you catch a glimpse of the ''hands up who likes LeatherTrumpet?'' thread. That one is a killer.

do it shortly after my "do you sort of style your hair to look like an 8o's basildon electro pop band member?"

quiz

Lauren · 13-11-2009, 05:00 PM

No offence to Stu, but I don't think he exactly 'styles' his hair...

Stu · 13-11-2009, 05:00 PM

But I do, of course

. Not that they are an 80's band. Or an electro pop band, for that matter. Unless you are writing from the standpoint of 1987ish.

Of course it's not perfect yet, mind you. I still don't have enough hair to achieve that all important floof.

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No offence to Stu, but I don't think he exactly 'styles' his hair...

And that, in itself, is the genius of 'The Stu'.

Crimson Dynamo · 13-11-2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

But I do, of course

. Not that they are an 80's band. Or an electro pop band, for that matter. Unless you are writing from the standpoint of 1987ish.

Of course it's not perfect yet, mind you. I still don't have enough hair to achieve that all important floof.

And that, in itself, is the genius of 'The Stu'.

is (rather annoyingly) quite a good come back

Stu · 13-11-2009, 05:04 PM

What can I say. I want to be the only person in Ireland in possession of a genuine floof.

http://www.martinleegore.com/floof.htm

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