[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by inone

how?

fight

[InOne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

fight

Against what?

[Tom]

Originally Posted by InOne

Against what?

People v Gods ... then the men with white jackets can cart the people off

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Tom

People v Gods ... then the men with white jackets can cart the people off

So people against themselves I guess, as they created the gods.

[BB_Eye]

The spread of Christianity signalled the end of classical antiquity and the beginning of the medieval world. Obviously medieval society seems barbaric compared to our own, but it differed from ancient or pagan cultures in that it accepted all man as equal under God.

Incidentally, the crimes of the African slave trade only began in the 16th century, during the Italian Renaissance when Europe looked back to the Greek pagan/humanistic ideals for inspiration and began to explore the world and destroy everything in their path.

[andyman]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

The spread of Christianity signalled the end of classical antiquity and the beginning of the medieval world. Obviously medieval society seems barbaric compared to our own, but it differed from ancient or pagan cultures in that it accepted all man as equal under God.

Incidentally, the crimes of the African slave trade only began in the 16th century, during the Italian Renaissance when Europe looked back to the Greek pagan/humanistic ideals for inspiration and began to explore the world and destroy everything in their path.

The age of empires, Europe was only doing what the Roman Empire had done and what we still do today..

The medieval world still had its link with the classical past through Rome, Christianity and the laws that spilt into it.. Early medieval Christianity was very political.

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by andyman

The age of empires, Europe was only doing what the Roman Empire had done and what we still do today..

I agree that the Romans fit into the same bracket as the Greeks. Colonising and enslaving the known world. Modern Europe (Renaissance and onwards) only repeated the process. This is where the ideals of the Enlightenment humanism failed. The belief that it was our moral burden to "liberate" indigenous cultures and it still carries on in this day and age with America trying to convince the world that they have a right to wage war on countries that don't conform to their liberal democratic model.

Originally Posted by andyman

The medieval world still had its link with the classical past through Rome, Christianity and the laws that spilt into it.. Early medieval Christianity was very political.

Again, I agree politics was always a dirty business. But even by the worst standards, political dynasties such as the Medici and the Borgias surely take the biscuit. The reign of Pope Alexander VI and Pope Leo X was a time of such unprecedented nepotism and corruption, that it ultimately resulted in the Protestant Schism.