[Stu]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

corin wanted to ruin their fun in matress-gate.. what the hell does she care? what a control freak, she hates caoimhe because she can't wrap her round her little finger like she can with the rest of the HM's

caoimhe takes no **** from anyone, even very manipulative ones like corin who most people get manipulated by!!

You mean ... you mean ... ... you mean she got annoyed when people messed up the room?

OH NOEZ!

Well gosh darnit, that just proves that she is a control freak and a right mini Hitler!

Christ, could you get anymore petty and reactionary? I can tell why she is your favourite.

[fruit_cake]

if you can't have fun in the BB house, then you can't have fun anywhere.. corin was soooo vane she couldn't handle the risk of her precious hairpeices being moved around. Coaimhe told her to stick them up her arse.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I agree with you but it doesn't mean that she is always wrong or that she never makes a fair point

Well vile people can still make reasonable points. Doesn't make her any more likeable. She has shown herself to be both a weak follower and now a disloyal backstabber.

Apparently she has now even proposed to her BF in the DR. Just to make a point to Shabby no doubt. I think she's devious. And her hairs a ****ing mess.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

if you can't have fun in the BB house, then you can't have fun anywhere.. corin was soooo vane she couldn't handle the risk of her precious hairpeices being moved around. Coaimhe told her to stick them up her arse.

Hold on ... a Caoimhe fan is making the argument against Coirin being vein? Well at least you have a healthy sense of irony, Rabbi.

Seriously though, are you honestly thick enough to think ... honestly that reactionary, that petty, that judgemental, to think that one instance of someone getting annoyed equates to them being an evil little control freak? Get real, brah.

Yes they were having fun, and no it would not have bothered me personally, but I can see how it would bother people. Having your stuff strewn around the room. You know ... your personal things.

What do you think would have happened if it was Caoimhe's drug of choice, Tobacco, that got thrown around the room? Well?

Also, aren't you defending the person who has repeatedly shown a conmplete hatred for the idea of 'fun'? What about when Caoimhe bitched on Sunshine for singing and dancing? What about when she did it to Ife on ... oh! ... the same night as this incedent in question?

I suppose you have no excuse for them, right? Those situations were somehow 'different'?

I know there is a lot of question marks in that post, but do try and respond to as many as you can .

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Well vile people can still make reasonable points. Doesn't make her any more likeable. She has shown herself to be both a weak follower and now a disloyal backstabber.

Apparently she has now even proposed to her BF in the DR. Just to make a point to Shabby no doubt. I think she's devious. And her hairs a ****ing mess.

lol, I don't like her either but I do agree with her on the Nathan thing

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Stu

Hold on ... a Caoimhe fan is making the argument against Coirin being vein? Well at least you have a healthy sense of irony, Rabbi.

Seriously though, are you honestly thick enough to think ... honestly that reactionary, that petty, that judgemental, to think that one instance of someone getting annoyed equates to them being an evil little control freak? Get real, brah.

Yes they were having fun, and no it would not have bothered me personally, but I can see how it would bother people. Having your stuff strewn around the room. You know ... your personal things.

What do you think would have happened if it was Caoimhe's drug of choice, Tobacco, that got thrown around the room? Well?

Also, aren't you defending the person who has repeatedly shown a conmplete hatred for the idea of 'fun'? What about when Caoimhe bitched on Sunshine for singing and dancing? What about when she did it to Ife on ... oh! ... the same night as this incedent in question?

I suppose you have no excuse for them, right? Those situations were somehow 'different'?

I know there is a lot of question marks in that post, but do try and respond to as many as you can .

caoimhe has her faults, and she was unfair to sunshine.. i'm sure she probably regrets that, but she doesn't stand for manipulative people who pretend to be nice like corin or ife. She put bully nathan in his place too.

caoimhe is hard as nails and takes no **** from anyone doesn't matter who they are, she's a real character.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

caoimhe takes no **** from anyone, even very manipulative ones like corin who most people get manipulated by!!

Have you been watching the past few weeks? Caoimhe has been hanging off Shabbys butt like a piece of dry sh!t. Hardly a woman of strength or substance. Just Shabbys little bitch. Classic case of a nonentity latching on to a substantial personality.

She was a bitch for mocking Ife and she was a bitch to Corin for her attitude over the bedroom incident. Wrong in both cases but had the nerve to act like she wasn't. Cold, arrogant and stubborn.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

caoimhe has her faults, and she was unfair to sunshine.. i'm sure she probably regrets that, but she doesn't stand for manipulative people who pretend to be nice like corin or ife. She put bully nathan in his place too.

caoimhe is hard as nails and takes no **** from anyone doesn't matter who they are, she's a real character.

Please outline your evidence to support the decleration that Coirin is pretending to be a nice person. Because so far you have provided jack shit, yet we are meant to lap up Caoimhe because 'she has faults, like all of us'.

Personally, I think you are full of shit.

So again : evidence. And evidence beyond 'she got annoyed at her stuff being thrown around LOLZ!'.

[Stu]

The problem here, Fruit Cake, is that you hate Coirin and you love Caoimhe. Therefore anything in the house you watch will inevitably be stretched, twisted, and made to fit the mould of your housemate views. Beyond that you have absoloutely nothing save for the word of Caoimhe - who is hardly a being of omnipotence - to support your idea that Coirin is merely pretending to be a nice person. Which, as it happens, is a horrible judgemental, narrow ass thing to say about someone when all you have to go off is the fact that :

1 : Caoimhe said it.
2 : Coirin got annoyed at the bedroom situation.
3 : Maybe, just maybe, she beats children and small animals when the cameras stop rolling.

So really there is sweet fuck all substance behind any of this. Your reasoning, your arguments, the lot. It's all shriveled down to a spunkless scrotum of nil.

[Beastie]

Stu

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Stu

The problem here, Fruit Cake, is that you hate Coirin and you love Caoimhe. Therefore anything in the house you watch will inevitably be stretched, twisted, and made to fit the mould of your housemate views. Beyond that you have absoloutely nothing save for the word of Caoimhe - who is hardly a being of omnipotence - to support your idea that Coirin is merely pretending to be a nice person. Which, as it happens, is a horrible judgemental, narrow ass thing to say about someone when all you have to go off is the fact that :

1 : Caoimhe said it.
2 : Coirin got annoyed at the bedroom situation.
3 : Maybe, just maybe, she beats children and small animals when the cameras stop rolling.

So really there is sweet fuck all substance behind any of this. Your reasoning, your arguments, the lot. It's all shriveled down to a spunkless scrotum of nil.

dont really know what you're saying, its a bit abstract and weird frankly..?

corin probably has nice parts to her, but she's got all the hm's wrapped around her little finger, in mattressgate they were all saying how sorry they were to her, as if she was some kind of queen.. ooooh im soooo sorry corin, pleeeease forgive me corin.. oooh your so amazing corin..

what a load of rubbish.. caoimhe told her to shove it up her arse and she has my respect because of that and how she stood up to bully nathan. i think a weaker person would have walked out straight after shabby.

[Stu]

They apologised to everyone. Not just Corin.

You have still failed to give any evidence to your riddiculous farce of an argument. The views you hold are born from pre installed housemate favouritism and, as I suspected, have nothing to do with actual footage content.

Are you at all capabe of defending your view that in reality Coirin is a nasty person without mentioning the word 'matress'?

?

[fruit_cake]

lol its called intuition.. something you don't have much of.

[Beastie]

I like Corin.. I think she is a nice and lovely person in real life.. but I think she is exaggerating it a bit too much on BB. Also I didn't believe her when she did not know what "controversial" meant. She is still better than a few housemates in there though!! I would want her to win if she was more open, feisty and dirttttttay!

[fruit_cake]

ask yourself this, if shes sooo nice and lovely, why has she got fake boobs? surely her personality would be enough, right?

[syzefree333]

do you know what though, chaoimhe is the only housemate to pull nathan up about his bullying ben..the only one to say something..i dont understand all the hating on the girl too be honest, ppl say she purposely was leading shabby on, but as she said on LF last night she would have gone for it with shabby if she had met her before her current boyfriend..i think she did have feelings for shabby but it was just too complicated to deal with in the house

[syzefree333]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

ask yourself this, if shes sooo nice and lovely, why has she got fake boobs? surely her personality would be enough, right?

i read in heat that they are real but regardless she is coming out of her shell and im not liking what i see, she let the lads rip into ben the other night and just laughed and i know as a viewer i found it uncomfortable so she must have seen that too but did nothing..she is not as nice as she makes out

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by syzefree333

do you know what though, chaoimhe is the only housemate to pull nathan up about his bullying ben..the only one to say something..i dont understand all the hating on the girl too be honest, ppl say she purposely was leading shabby on, but as she said on LF last night she would have gone for it with shabby if she had met her before her current boyfriend..i think she did have feelings for shabby but it was just too complicated to deal with in the house

i agree, caoimhe was having problems understanding what she felt for shabby

[Zippy]

The other HMs just don't think Nathan is bullying Ben. Caoimhe was just dragging Ben into it to get support. Nathan finds Ben hysterical.

And she certainly did lead Shabby on. About potential sexual feelings and then about leaving together...if one goes they both go. Something they discussed many times. Caoimhe is a selfish user.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by Zippy

The other HMs just don't think Nathan is bullying Ben. Caoimhe was just dragging Ben into it to get support. Nathan finds Ben hysterical.

And she certainly did lead Shabby on. About potential sexual feelings and then about leaving together...if one goes they both go. Something they discussed many times. Caoimhe is a selfish user.

Agreed. Get the bore out.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

lol its called intuition.. something you don't have much of.

Why, because I disagree with your views? Views you cannot even back up?

Get out of here, kid. What is this 'intuition' then? Seems like a relatively bizarre phenomena to occur between yourself and a character on a TV screen you see a couple of minutes of every day.

What a cop out.

[syzefree333]

Originally Posted by Zippy

The other HMs just don't think Nathan is bullying Ben. Caoimhe was just dragging Ben into it to get support. Nathan finds Ben hysterical.

And she certainly did lead Shabby on. About potential sexual feelings and then about leaving together...if one goes they both go. Something they discussed many times. Caoimhe is a selfish user.

nathan only started sayin ben is hilarious once he realised he had gone too far and could be percieved as a bully..you can say almost anything and get away with it if you add a little compliment at the end, nathan, jj and dave have been ruthless with there 'jokes'...jokes dont insult ppl and that is exactly what nathan and jj have been doing to ben..nathan is being classist actually as well as a bully

[syzefree333]

Originally Posted by Stu

Please outline your evidence to support the decleration that Coirin is pretending to be a nice person. Because so far you have provided jack shit, yet we are meant to lap up Caoimhe because 'she has faults, like all of us'.

Personally, I think you are full of shit.

So again : evidence. And evidence beyond 'she got annoyed at her stuff being thrown around LOLZ!'.

you seem to be getting very angry just because someone has a different opinion to yourself..human beings are complex and have both bad characteristics as well as good..yes chaoimhe did latch on to shabby but that doesnt mean she has no substance, she was just quieter than shabby and not as confident at asserting herself , unless really pushed.. on the L.F when jj and nathan shamelessly picked on ben for ages, corin just sat there laughing and would not stick up for ben even though they had stepped way over the line..i used to like her and still do but was disapointed at her lack of conviction and courage to stick up for someone that was clearly being bullied

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by syzefree333

nathan only started sayin ben is hilarious once he realised he had gone too far and could be percieved as a bully..you can say almost anything and get away with it if you add a little compliment at the end, nathan, jj and dave have been ruthless with there 'jokes'...jokes dont insult ppl and that is exactly what nathan and jj have been doing to ben..nathan is being classist actually as well as a bully

Exactly.

[Patrick]

caoimhe.