[Lee.]

It amazes me that grown intelligent adults can belive 100% in the bible and deny evolution ever happened despite there being evidence of it all around!

To me religion is man made t offer people some form of belief and guidance.

I think I've asked this before on here, but how long ago were Adam and Eve created?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by happyland

It amazes me that grown intelligent adults can belive 100% in the bible and deny evolution ever happened despite there being evidence of it all around!

To me religion is man made t offer people some form of belief and guidance.

I think I've asked this before on here, but how long ago were Adam and Eve created?

Most Christians do now accept evolution though, I think even the Catholic church do.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Most Christians do now accept evolution though, I think even the Catholic church do.

But even if they do, it still amazes me that they can fully believe what is written in the bible.. it's fiction obviously

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by happyland

But even if they do, it still amazes me that they can fully believe what is written in the bible.. it's fiction obviously

i do believe theres some false stories in the bible but i also believe theres some truth to them aswell.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Most Christians do now accept evolution though, I think even the Catholic church do.

they do "now" accept it because people don't just take everything they say as-pardon the pun-gospel anymore and so they have to accept it! i love how they can just change round their rules whenever it suits them!

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

they do "now" accept it because people don't just take everything they say as-pardon the pun-gospel anymore and so they have to accept it! i love how they can just change round their rules whenever it suits them!

Well it's hardly religions fault that they were ignorant of evolution, everyone was until 150 years ago. It is just believed that religion and evolution are not incompatible, and there was therefore no issue with adjusting their beliefs to accomodate for the discovery.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well it's hardly religions fault that they were ignorant of evolution, everyone was until 150 years ago. It is just believed that religion and evolution are not incompatible, and there was therefore no issue with adjusting their beliefs to accomodate for the discovery.

so basically they were just making it up and selling it as the truth but in fact they hadn't a clue what they were talking about?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

so basically they were just making it up and selling it as the truth but in fact they hadn't a clue what they were talking about?

They were saying what they thought had happened, using the knowledge available to them at the time. They thought that what was in the Bible about making the universe in 6 literal days must be true, as they knew no better. Once evolution came to light, they realised this may be incorrect and adjusted their beliefs accordingly, so that a lot of Christians do not believe the 6 days are literal, and that they are metaphorically referring to 6 long periods of time

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

They were saying what they thought had happened, using the knowledge available to them at the time. They thought that what was in the Bible about making the universe in 6 literal days must be true, as they knew no better. Once evolution came to light, they realised this may be incorrect and adjusted their beliefs accordingly, so that a lot of Christians do not believe the 6 days are literal, and that they are metaphorically referring to 6 long periods of time

which is why I believe people should not follow organised religions as it is only what man thinks might have happened, when in reality they know nothing. I can't understand why we can't all just try and be good people and that's that!

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

They were saying what they thought had happened, using the knowledge available to them at the time. They thought that what was in the Bible about making the universe in 6 literal days must be true, as they knew no better. Once evolution came to light, they realised this may be incorrect and adjusted their beliefs accordingly, so that a lot of Christians do not believe the 6 days are literal, and that they are metaphorically referring to 6 long periods of time

6 days, 6 years or 6 decades.. I still cannot accept that some greater being created a man and a woman, and the world and night and day. It's just ludicrous to me that people can accept that!
I can appreciate that people do believe this stuff though, and as long as they don't preach it to me then so be it.

[Boothy]

Originally Posted by happyland

It amazes me that grown intelligent adults can belive 100% in the bible and deny evolution ever happened despite there being evidence of it all around!

To me religion is man made t offer people some form of belief and guidance.

I think I've asked this before on here, but how long ago were Adam and Eve created?

No-one actually knows but I've heard between 5000-20,000 years ago. I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty sure Adam and Eve were put on Earth once 'God' had finished 'creating' it, which means Earth was created, at most, 20,000 years ago.

So in the eyes of Christians, Dinosaurs or anything else over 20,000 years old didn't ever exist.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Boothy

No-one actually knows but I've heard between 5000-20,000 years ago. I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty sure Adam and Eve were put on Earth once 'God' had finished 'creating' it, which means Earth was created, at most, 20,000 years ago.

So in the eyes of Christians, Dinosaurs or anything else over 20,000 years old didn't ever exist.

Yeah.. you just stole my next point

But yeah, how do they explain dinosaurs.. or fossils of single cell organisms for that matter?

[Boothy]

Originally Posted by happyland

Yeah.. you just stole my next point

But yeah, how do they explain dinosaurs.. or fossils of single cell organisms for that matter?

Idk. 'God' probably put them there.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Boothy

Idk. 'God' probably put them there.

Adam and Eve were amoebas?

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Boothy

So in the eyes of Christians, Dinosaurs or anything else over 20,000 years old didn't ever exist.

Thats not true dude. Christians do believe that Dinosaurs existed, because its in the Bible. They believe that God created Dinosaurs, before he created man on the current earth that we live on today.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Boothy

No-one actually knows but I've heard between 5000-20,000 years ago. I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty sure Adam and Eve were put on Earth once 'God' had finished 'creating' it, which means Earth was created, at most, 20,000 years ago.

So in the eyes of Christians, Dinosaurs or anything else over 20,000 years old didn't ever exist.

Well, fundamentalists would argue that it was roughly 6000 years old. Not all Christians would take the story of creation literally though..

[Sticks]

As for dinosaurs, if you look at the book of Job it describes at least two, Behemoth and Leviathan

As for the fossils, creationists will tell you that they are the result of the global flood of Noah.

No in order to get rid of the flood waters, the Earth had to be drastically changed, and so, the argument goes, in the new world after that, dinosaurs were unable to survive.

As for large dinosaurs on the ark, who says they had to be adult dinosaurs, hey could have been juveniles

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Sticks

As for dinosaurs, if you look at the book of Job it describes at least two, Behemoth and Leviathan

As for the fossils, creationists will tell you that they are the result of the global flood of Noah.

No in order to get rid of the flood waters, the Earth had to be drastically changed, and so, the argument goes, in the new world after that, dinosaurs were unable to survive.

As for large dinosaurs on the ark, who says they had to be adult dinosaurs, hey could have been juveniles

Isn't there a belief that when God threw Lucifer from heaven to the earth, that was at the time when Dinosaurs roamed the earth? Lucifer was exiled from heaven before man was created.

[Sticks]

Originally Posted by SoBig

Isn't there a belief that when God threw Lucifer from heaven to the earth, that was at the time when Dinosaurs roamed the earth? Lucifer was exiled from heaven before man was created.

Here you may be getting into mythology rather than the Bible, and if I recall the belief outside of the Bible was that there was a rebellion in Heaven when Satan tried to claim God's throne, which led to an angelic war, when one third of the angels sided with Satan and were cast down.

The only oblique reference in the Bible to this is in 2 Peter 2:4 where it referred to angels that had sinned.

When that happened in relation to the creation account is not certain.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Boothy

No-one actually knows but I've heard between 5000-20,000 years ago. I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty sure Adam and Eve were put on Earth once 'God' had finished 'creating' it, which means Earth was created, at most, 20,000 years ago.

So in the eyes of Christians, Dinosaurs or anything else over 20,000 years old didn't ever exist.

Only if they take Genesis as being literal as opposed to metaphorical

One of Gods days may be the equivalent of several hundreds of thousands or even millions of one of our years.