[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

There is no need to prove the non existence of anything. Like unicorns, dragons, space monkeys, turd eskimo ninjas

Praying to a diety who we are told can so anything, crated everything including man and who loves us all dearly but sits back and lets this happen is sick and wrong and should not be encouraged.

read below for your amusement.

Let's agree that there is no empirical evidence showing that God exists.
If you think about it as a rational person, this lack of evidence is startling. There is not one bit of empirical evidence indicating that today's "God", nor any other contemporary god, nor any god of the past, exists. In addition we know that:

If we had scientific proof of God's existence, we would talk about the "science of God" rather than "faith in God".
If we had scientific proof of God's existence, the study of God would be a scientific endeavor rather than a theological one.
If we had scientific proof of God's existence, all religious people would be aligning on the God that had been scientifically proven to exist. Instead there are thousands of gods and religions.
The reason for this lack of evidence is easy for any unbiased observer to see. The reason why there is no empirical evidence for God is because God is imaginary.

http://godisimaginary.com/i11.htm

While I agree with most of your post, I suppose it comes down to the question "How are we here then" I know there's the big bang theory and all that but then you have to ask "Well where did the stuff that banged come from" etc etc.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

While I agree with most of your post, I suppose it comes down to the question "How are we here then" I know there's the big bang theory and all that but then you have to ask "Well where did the stuff that banged come from" etc etc.

It does not as it would be the wrong question to ask if you understand the big bang and to try and attribute an answer to some great god would be preposterous

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

It does not as it would be the wrong question to ask if you understand the big bang and to try and attribute an answer to some great god would be preposterous

I don't understand the big bang theory at all but I'm assuming that there had to be something there for it to happen? Anyway, I was reading this book Shantaram and I loved the idea about God and life etc that he had in this book, here's a snippet of it :

Spoiler:

"The universe," he continued, "this universe that we know, began in almost absolute simplicity, and it has been getting more complex for about fifteen billion years. In another billion years it will be still more complex than it is now. In five billion, in ten billion -- it is always getting more complex. It is moving toward...something. It is moving toward some kind of ultimate complexity. We might not get there. An atom of hydrogen might not get there, or a leaf, or a man, or a planet might not get there, to that ultimate complexity. But we are all moving towards it -- everything in the universe is moving towards it. And that final complexity, that thing we are all moving to, is what I choose to call God. If you don't like that word, God, call it the Ultimate Complexity. Whatever you call it, the whole universe is moving toward it."

I thought it was an interesting theory