[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by Stu

Grown adults with developed taste?

Oh really? The chap who threw eggs at JB at a recent concert was 17 as I recall.

Somehow both Jedward and Bieber make certain groups (mainly young/youngish males) feel threatened in some way. I have suggested a couple of types of envy: it may not be quite the right word but perhaps more a feeling of inadequacy, viz. "Why should those two be getting so much attention and money when I don't and I'm about the same age as them... etc".

Yes, Jedward can be annoying - nobody can doubt that. But there people with FAR more annoying traits and we don't seem to get quite as worked up about it, do we?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Oh really? The chap who threw eggs at JB at a recent concert was 17 as I recall.

Somehow both Jedward and Bieber make certain groups (mainly young/youngish males) feel threatened in some way. I have suggested a couple of types of envy: it may not be quite the right word but perhaps more a feeling of inadequacy, viz. "Why should those two be getting so much attention and money when I don't and I'm about the same age as them... etc".

Yes, Jedward can be annoying - nobody can doubt that. But there people with FAR more annoying traits and we don't seem to get quite as worked up about it, do we?

You seem to be looking far too deep into things

People don't like them, there doesn't have to be much of a reason behind it

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Somehow both Jedward and Bieber make certain groups (mainly young/youngish males) feel threatened in some way.

In your opinion. In reality, its probably just a case of them disliking them.

I dont get the Bieber hate tbh...but each to their own.

I can totally understand it with jedward though at the minute...its not like they are just getting on with their life, doing concerts etc like Bieber does, they have put themselves forward for scrutiny, and are getting it. But some people seem unable to accept the fact that others might just dislike them because they are acting like little brats, instead insisting that there must be an element of envy there.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Oh really? The chap who threw eggs at JB at a recent concert was 17 as I recall.

Somehow both Jedward and Bieber make certain groups (mainly young/youngish males) feel threatened in some way. I have suggested a couple of types of envy: it may not be quite the right word but perhaps more a feeling of inadequacy, viz. "Why should those two be getting so much attention and money when I don't and I'm about the same age as them... etc".

Yes, Jedward can be annoying - nobody can doubt that. But there people with FAR more annoying traits and we don't seem to get quite as worked up about it, do we?

jesus christ hold me back!

has it occured to you that we just dont find them remotely interesting or entertaining and resent them being shoved in our face?

I envy people with TALENT. Not lucky chancers.

Bieber hysterical type fame(and Jedward are not in his league, frankly) is my worst nightmare so I most certainly do not envy it!

[Stu]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Oh really? The chap who threw eggs at JB at a recent concert was 17 as I recall.

Somehow both Jedward and Bieber make certain groups (mainly young/youngish males) feel threatened in some way. I have suggested a couple of types of envy: it may not be quite the right word but perhaps more a feeling of inadequacy, viz. "Why should those two be getting so much attention and money when I don't and I'm about the same age as them... etc".

Yes, Jedward can be annoying - nobody can doubt that. But there people with FAR more annoying traits and we don't seem to get quite as worked up about it, do we?

I won't even go there.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Oh really? The chap who threw eggs at JB at a recent concert was 17 as I recall.

Somehow both Jedward and Bieber make certain groups (mainly young/youngish males) feel threatened in some way. I have suggested a couple of types of envy: it may not be quite the right word but perhaps more a feeling of inadequacy, viz. "Why should those two be getting so much attention and money when I don't and I'm about the same age as them... etc".

Yes, Jedward can be annoying - nobody can doubt that. But there people with FAR more annoying traits and we don't seem to get quite as worked up about it, do we?

And yet there are plenty of celebrities with just as much money or more than Jedward who I do like and don't find annoying.

How do you explain that one?

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by MTVN

And yet there are plenty of celebrities with just as much money or more than Jedward who I do like and don't find annoying.

How do you explain that one?

Because you perceive them as having got something for nothing? I.e. plenty of dosh and plenty of teeny-adulation for what you regard as minimal or non-existent talent.

Just to be clear, I am only trying a little amateur psychology here - not to pîss anyone off.

I just feel there must be a reason why people not only don't like them, but go so far as to wish positive harm on what appear to be two quite decent harmless (if rather eccentric) individuals. That's all.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Because you perceive them as having got something for nothing? I.e. plenty of dosh and plenty of teeny-adulation for what you regard as minimal or non-existent talent.

Just to be clear, I am only trying a little amateur psychology here - not to pîss anyone off.

I just feel there must be a reason why people not only don't like them, but go so far as to wish positive harm on what appear to be two quite decent harmless (if rather eccentric) individuals. That's all.

I'm sure Mummy loves them - no pun intended!

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by fingers

I'm sure Mummy loves them

I'm sure she loves what they are earning - especially as she only gives them £20 a week pocket money from it!

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by Zippy

I think he may well actually be their mummy judging by the way he defends them

Damn........... I've been sussed!

And I'm laughing all the way to the bank!

I'm sure she loves what they are earning - especially as she only gives them £20 a week pocket money from it!

[CaudleHalbard]

really don't get why a lot of Jedward fans seemingly find it incomprehensible that anyone might actually dislike them.

If you read what I said I am interested in that it goes beyond mere "dislike".

Even allowing for the sort of OTT sentiments expressed on here, some seem to positively hate Jedward and wish them harm.

I do not wish any of the HMs harm. Not one of them, either in this CBB series or in any other series of CBB or BB.

NB: I am not a "Jedward fan". I feel pretty neutral about them. But the sort of sentiments expressed about them on here are little short of disgusting sometimes.

They are adults and Im pretty sure their money goes into their own bank accounts at their age.

Do a little research and you'll find you're pretty wrong! The money will be paid to their management company in the first place.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Because you perceive them as having got something for nothing? I.e. plenty of dosh and plenty of teeny-adulation for what you regard as minimal or non-existent talent.

Just to be clear, I am only trying a little amateur psychology here - not to pîss anyone off.

I just feel there must be a reason why people not only don't like them, but go so far as to wish positive harm on what appear to be two quite decent harmless (if rather eccentric) individuals. That's all.

No not really, well I dont think they're particularly talented if that's what you mean but neither is Amy and I like her

And no I don't think there is any underlying, subconscious reason as to why I don't like them, I just.. don't. I find them irritating, I think they act far younger than they actually are, and they're having a lot of the show focus on them when I'd rather they gave more camera time to other housemates.

I really don't get why a lot of Jedward fans seemingly find it incomprehensible that anyone might actually dislike them. I'm sure there are some housemates in there who you don't like; you have your reasons for that and I have mine for not being keen on Jedward. Amateur psychology and accusations of jealousy really aren't needed.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I really don't get why a lot of Jedward fans seemingly find it incomprehensible that anyone might actually dislike them. I'm sure there are some housemates in there who you don't like; you gave your reasons for that and I have mine for not being keen on Jedward. Amateur psychology and accusations if jealousy really aren't needed.

100% agree with this.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

100% agree with this.

I accept people don't like them and respect that view until they start near attacking and near ridiculing me personally for liking them or going to their concerts.

While it would seem even you agree with this that some Jedward fans don't seem to be able to accept that some people don't like them for whatever their reasons.
It seems though perfectly alright for Jedward haters to jump on every thread as to Jedward and bait the Jedward fans while also not having to 'equally' accept that some people also like them.

I do like them, I state what I like about them, I also though on here get regularly ridiculed for that and I think that is wrong.

I have been grouped in terminologies like mindless tweens, nuts and of no taste whatsoever regularly by those who hate the boys. I do none of that to others and their likes and dislikes.

I am in no way silly, desperate, a mindless tween, nuts or anything else like those terms and I should 'not' be thought so for the simple act of being a fan of Jedward.
People even came onto their fan club thread to tear them to pieces,which I have to say immediately to your credit you did come on and remind them that it was a fan club thread.

I agree people should be able to express their views either way but they should do so without attacking the fans who are members here also.

That all off my chest and I will be slated likely again for saying it,I will now again clear off and as Zippy is able to say about me, Thank God that's shut him up!!