[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Why is it not considered as bad when Aaron kicks off when he's angry, when someone ate his cupcake icing he started chucking something about. Anger is a perfectly natural emotion and one that's probably even harder to deal with in that environment, you just have to get rid of it as best you can and Jay managed to do that without troubling any of the other house mates

Because it's been done (jay) with aggressive, and destructive maliciousness - in the way that Jay has been doing since the shopping was delivered, and in that he continuing to do.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Novo

Aaron threw a used tea bag on the floor.. Jay threw what appeared to be a brick from the house in the direction of Harry who it would have it bang on the forehead if he wasn't behind the glass door

Well I never noticed him chucking a brick Seems everyone's more annoyed because he punched a pillow

[Novo]

Locke told me it was a Brick and i looked again on youtube and does look like a brick

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Novo

Aaron threw a used tea bag on the floor.. Jay threw what appeared to be a brick from the house in the direction of Harry who it would have it bang on the forehead if he wasn't behind the glass door

Was it not a bar of chocolate?

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Oh, and the plural of lady, is ladies.

And there it is a last ditch attempt to claw something back a sure sign of desperation is to get on the grammar horse
I thought you were better than that
night night.

[Novo]

No a brown colored brick

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well I never noticed him chucking a brick Seems everyone's more annoyed because he punched a pillow

I think this may be a slight exaggeration of the chocolate bar

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by bobnot

And there it is a last ditch attempt to claw something back a sure sign of desperation is to get on the grammar horse
I thought you were better than that
night night.

I thought better of you too before your woman's lib comment. so there you go!

[Vicky.]

Im actually proper giggling at 'what appeared to be a brick'

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Im actually proper giggling at 'what appeared to be a brick'

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Im actually proper giggling at 'what appeared to be a brick'

When he chucked something when they were sitting out at the smoking chairs - I thought he was going to have a coronary - bars of chocolate getting flung about! Man's crackers.

[LivT]

I wouldn't say this was an unfair thread, at all; the heading of which is Should Jay be removed? All I see is people airing their opinions, which no doubt doesn't stem from ... the fridge incident.. or the punching debacle, alone.... but on Jay's character as a whole. With every viewer, opinions are based upon how the Hm portrays himself/herself . People here are just breaking down his traits/behaviour pattern and the way he projects himself and concluding that, yes, he should be removed ...he has got away with behaviour that doesn't warrant his place as a housemate anymore

[Locke.]

It was indeed a brick from the top of the garden wall which he had just spent the previous 3 minutes chipping away at

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

No, I don't think so. He wasn't directing his aggression towards any of the HMs

Well he stated in the diary room that he wanted to kick Harry's head in so I think BB would have been left in no doubt as to whom he was directing his aggression.

[Angus]

Jay is an intimidating figure when he's angry and unlike Aaron when he threw a strop, he doesn't remove himself from a situation, but continues to confront people and vocalise his grievances like a 2 year old. To say he didn't direct his anger and malice towards any individual is to be disingenuous. I can imagine he would have thought nothing of knocking Harry out on the outside of the house, but instead he took his frustration out by stamping on the food, chucking it in bins, punching cushions etc, and stomping around the house like a bloody toddler.

I bet the people on here defending this overbearing thug would be the first to complain in the outside world if he behaved like that. I'm surprised BB let him get away with that comment about wanting to assault Harry in the DR, without giving him a strong warning to tone down his aggression. He always seems to be on a short fuse. I hope his lack of self control will be his downfall and that the blinkers fall from his supporters' eyes. Such a total knob should not be in the final, let alone be the winner.

[Patricia4]

I dont like anything about that guy he is vile.

[Gary2010]

I think he should stay a bit longer, it gives us something to talk about, apart from Harrys shopping spree.

I don't know why some housemates haven't been to big brother to complain about him though he seems very controlling and intimidating, maybe some new housemates would stir it up, another alpha male would be good to watch.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by angus58

Well he stated in the diary room that he wanted to kick Harry's head in so I think BB would have been left in no doubt as to whom he was directing his aggression.

Oh come on, he said it in the Diary Room. I'm quite sure every one of us have said things like that before without meaning it. I can't believe I'm actually defending Jay here, but people are over reacting and it is purely because he's the biggest and most menacing looking HM in there.

I'll be honest I found Harrys shopping prank hilarious cos I'm outside and it's a bit of entertainment, but If I was in there I know I'd be so angry if I had to live off Bananas and Cereal for the week.

[chuff me dizzy]

Without a doubt, he needed removing for the freezer incident, never mind the violence ,what a tosspot ,let him take Louise with him

[Pink Pegasus]

Just finished watched the last 2 parts of last night's episodes, and I would have to say No I don't think Jay should be kicked out.
He was fuming over the food. I would have been too.
As Tom, Faye and I think one or two others said, him punching the pillow was actually a good way of him getting rid of his anger.
I've heard loads of times that hitting a pillow is a healthy, nonviolent way of releasing pent up aggression.
He calmed down eventually and went to talk with Harry.
Throwing out the coffee and stomping on a few of the bananas was a bit petty, but nothing was done that warrants being thrown out imo.

[Pink Pegasus]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh come on, he said it in the Diary Room. I'm quite sure every one of us have said things like that before without meaning it. I can't believe I'm actually defending Jay here, but people are over reacting and it is purely because he's the biggest and most menacing looking HM in there.

I'll be honest I found Harrys shopping prank hilarious cos I'm outside and it's a bit of entertainment, but If I was in there I know I'd be so angry if I had to live off Bananas and Cereal for the week.

This is a good point. He didn't directly threaten Harry. Not like when Tom said to Aaron, "if we weren't in this house, I'd punch your lights out", or when Aden threatened violence to Aaron during the task.
They weren't thrown out, so I don't see why Jay would be thrown out for saying how he felt privately in the diary room, then going outside hitting a pillow, calming down and going to talk to Harry.

[Visage]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

If I was in there I know I'd be so angry if I had to live off Bananas and Cereal for the week.

Think of all the different coloured cereal you could eat.

[Raven]

1) Freezer incident? There was no freezer incident, just speculation upon things none of Us know (Given His reaction to food NO way he would jepordise the food supply in there, end of!)

2) Blowing off steam in a way that is not harmful to another is not a bad thing, surely better than the alternative!

3) There are many people that annoy us to the point we might want to smack them in the mouth, but we deal with that anger in a more healthy way (Most of the time)

4) saying what he did in the diary room is worse than what Tom said to aaron in what way exactly?

get real folks, no he shouldn't be removed, he hasn't done anything too be removed.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Visage

Think of all the different coloured cereal you could eat.

lmao I'd have killed him, I hate cereal, not a fan of bananas either

[Bojangles]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Yes he should.

All his previous vilness aside, I believe no one in there will now cross him now due to feeling physically threatened, especially now they have seen the sheer depth of his violent rage.

No one in that house should ever feel contolled by the violent actions of another HM.

That's the point Jay didn't threaten anyone.He took his anger out on a cushion,so he is able to control his anger.
What have we seen on BBBOTS for weeks."When is someone going to stir things up and cause conflict".Soon as you get that you are asking for the person to be removed from the house.
You can't have it both ways.