[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yeah exactly, and no Poundland is a private business and nothing like the Salvation Army it's just a cheap supermarket kind of place

They Have the Same Type Stores in America The 99Cent Stores
I shopped in them while I worked out there,
as well as Ralphs

[InOne]

Originally Posted by arista

FecK Off


She Picked the Wrong Subjects


Life Is Hard.

She is Doing Well.
Even in the News

Calm down Her degree is more worthwhile than some of the others.

[arista]

Originally Posted by InOne

Calm down Her degree is more worthwhile than some of the others.

So What.



Sugar Built Amstrad from working on a Stall.



Feck Off About Eduction
She make me want to Puke.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by arista

So What.



Sugar Built Amstrad from working on a Stall.



Feck Off About Eduction
She make me want to Puke.

Not everyone is Alan Sugar though.

[lostalex]

If her benefits are more than the standard Poundland wages, then it sounds like it should be the Poundland employee's complaining, not this woman.

[MTVN]

Her benefits aren't more than the average Poundland employee, it would be the stupidest thing ever for JSA to ever be above the minimum wage

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Her benefits aren't more than the average Poundland employee, it would be the stupidest thing ever for JSA to ever be above the minimum wage

well Arista seems convinced they are. Arista why are you lying?

[Angus]

Originally Posted by MTVN

She was already doing voluntary work experience, and in the sector where she actually wants to work full time - a heck of a lot more useful than sweeping floors at Poundland

Sadly, the Jobcentre is more interested in "punishing" people for having the audacity to be out of work - their assumption being that all the unemployed are a bunch of workshy, lazy scroungers. Therefore, they devise ways to ensure that claiming benefits is as unpleasant as possible in the misguided belief that people will stop claiming and start working. Just one major flaw in their logic - there are dozens of applicants for every job going, so those that really want to work are being punished along with the bone idle scroungers.

Poundland is just one of thousands of employers who participate in the "punishment" since they have the benefit of free labour whilst the Government can appease the masses by demonstrating that those claiming benefits are not getting something for nothing.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Angus

Sadly, the Jobcentre is more interested in "punishing" people for having the audacity to be out of work - their assumption being that all the unemployed are a bunch of workshy, lazy scroungers. Therefore, they devise ways to ensure that claiming benefits is as unpleasant as possible in the misguided belief that people will stop claiming and start working. Just one major flaw in their logic - there are dozens of applicants for every job going, so those that really want to work are being punished along with the bone idle scroungers.

Poundland is just one of thousands of employers who participate in the "punishment" since they have the benefit of free labour whilst the Government can appease the masses by demonstrating that those claiming benefits are not getting something for nothing.

I actually completely agree with that

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

well Arista seems convinced they are. Arista why are you lying?

I am Not

She Gets Paid

[arista]

Originally Posted by InOne

Not everyone is Alan Sugar though.

Of Course


But again So What

[Marsh.]

But if she was already doing voluntary work in an area she was wanting to enter as a full time career path then they should have let her be.

Forcing her to take a position they found for her seems ridiculous.

Although, I think suing ministers is too far.

[Pyramid*]

People need to get things into perspective. This young woman is moaning about nothing. She's been requested to do 2 weeks only, during which time she will still receive her JSA.

2 weeks. 10 working days.

I hardly think her voluntary work is going to suffer hugely -or her for that matter.

Head too far up her own arse and full of her own self importance, thinks she's too good to do the type of job for 10 days that some people do for a lifetime.

Miss Reilly is now taking landmark legal action against the Government after being told she risked losing her £53.45-a-week Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA) payment if she turned down the two-week unpaid work experience stint at Poundland.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

People need to get things into perspective. This young woman is moaning about nothing. She's been requested to do 2 weeks only, during which time she will still receive her JSA.

2 weeks. 10 working days.

I hardly think her voluntary work is going to suffer hugely -or her for that matter.

Head too far up her own arse and full of her own self importance, thinks she's too good to do the type of job for 10 days that some people do for a lifetime.

Yes she is Utter Bad News

[fruit_cake]

it doesn't seem right to me that Poundland are getting free labor.

[Bollo]

I have no sympathy for her, I did an HND in fashion design which is notoriously hard to get into and I knew that when I did the course. I took another (completely unrelated) job to pay the bills and did my chosen subject in my spare time. People need to understand that if they want to work in the field of their choice they have to make sacrifices

[Scarlett.]

Surely the place she was volunteering at would let her do two damn weeks somewhere else to get benefits

[arista]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

it doesn't seem right to me that Poundland are getting free labor.

It was only for 2 weeks
Not a Problem.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by arista

It was only for 2 weeks
Not a Problem.

she could have come and swept my floors for two weeks. I'd have given her a better reference too

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Chewy

Surely the place she was volunteering at would let her do two damn weeks somewhere else to get benefits

Let's look at it this in a far more realistic way. She has chosen a Degree in a subject that clearly is not crying out for graduate workers -that was her choice to chose that type of career to get into - despite it not being an easy one, full of opportunities.

There are no details as to how long she works on a voluntary basis: it may not be the same full time regular hours that she will be expected to work in Poundland. For all we know, she could be volunteering for 2 hours a day from 1pm - 3pm - hardly good work experience in respect of mirroring full time working hours.

Fact and very much the reality is: she seems to expect to be able to accept JSA whilst waiting for her ideal job in her chosen sector to fall into her lap. Real life doesn't work that way - people have to take the jobs that they get, to get off the dole - even those with Degrees. That's life.

Time this little upstart realised that she may in fact have to accept a job such as the 2 week work experience in Poundland - for real if her ideal job in her ideal world doesn't fall into lap soon.

It's life. If she's so adverse to working in a job that isn't in her chosen field - regardless of what said job is - then she should not be entitled to any benefits if she's going to be so bloody fussy. She can take a job in the meantime and volunteer after her normal working hours (Ie: at weekends, days off etc)

She's at it. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Scarlett.]

I agree there, no one starts at the top

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

She's on benefits and was doing voluntary work at the same time, now she's being forced to do work in Poundland instead while still not getting paid what she would if it was a proper job, it's ridiculous, if Poundland can create these jobs for people to do as unpaid labour then why can't they actually give people actual jobs??

I dunno if people are misunderstanding this or something, this is not a job, most were against thus idea not long ago http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=191490

Exactly.

This new scheme is stupid and will only end up with more people unemployed in the long run, once employers realise they can get free labour instead of paying min wage to their current workers

Yeah some will say it will be monitored so that this doesnt happen...the government couldnt monitor their own toilet habits, nevermind something like this.

[Vicky.]

Missed the 2 week part of it..

So its totally useless really then...as no future employer is going to be impressed by a whole fortnight of work experience anyways :/

And I still think in the long term poundland will start sacking their 'lower down' workers (warehouse/shelf stackers)...the ones who would require little to no training in favour of getting more free workers. Its all about the profits

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Missed the 2 week part of it..

So its totally useless really then...as no future employer is going to be impressed by a whole fortnight of work experience anyways :/

And I still think in the long term poundland will start sacking their 'lower down' workers (warehouse/shelf stackers)...the ones who would require little to no training in favour of getting more free workers. Its all about the profits

Perhaps it's less the work experience from a future prospective employers' point of view: and more to get those who are not used to working full time hours, getting the feel of it, especially if they have become used to not having a strict routine. I still see nothing wrong with it.

As I say: not many of us went straight into our ideal jobs from the minute we began working - or in our ideal sector either.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Perhaps it's less the work experience from a future prospective employers' point of view: and more to get those who are not used to working full time hours, getting the feel of it, especially if they have become used to not having a strict routine. I still see nothing wrong with it.

As I say: not many of us went straight into our ideal jobs from the minute we began working - or in our ideal sector either.

And 2 whole weeks will do that?

A much better way to do this (not that the government actually think about things properly...all they care about is numbers) is make it a 3 month placement with a chance of a proper job at the end of it. And pay the person for doing it...maybe not minimum wage(though that would be preferable...as then they get used to having a REAL wage too...which would give incentive to work to most), but they SHOULD be better off than being on the dole. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to give stores such as poundland/tescos etc free work. They can afford to pay people.

Other than that, make the placements in places such as charity shops...who actually are crying out for workers and arent as rich as chainstores.