[Tom4784]

No, a good parent should never have to resort to any sort of violence. Anyone who does it will earn nothing but the full extent of my wrath.

[Marc]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

No, a good parent should never have to resort to any sort of violence. Anyone who does it will earn nothing but the full extent of my wrath.

That's hard to say though, society and school is a major factor in kids behaviour and that's pretty detached from the parent's control

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Marc

That's hard to say though, society and school is a major factor in kids behaviour and that's pretty detached from the parent's control

A child's behavior doesn't come into it, parents shouldn't have to resort to violence regardless. Ruling kids with the fear of being hurt is a terrible way of raising children.

[Marc]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

A child's behavior doesn't come into it, parents shouldn't have to resort to violence regardless. Ruling kids with the fear of being hurt is a terrible way of raising children.

I don't know if you can say that tbh in fact you basically just said my mum is a terrible parent. Until we have kids, we won't know what's best.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Marc

I don't know if you can say that tbh in fact you basically just said my mum is a terrible parent. Until we have kids, we won't know what's best.

Think that's a bit of an overreaction.

[Marc]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Think that's a bit of an overreaction.

I just took it as it was said to me. I'm not overreacting or looking for an argument.

I think the second part of my post is still valid, we won't know how to bring our children up until we're parents.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Marc

I don't know if you can say that tbh in fact you basically just said my mum is a terrible parent. Until we have kids, we won't know what's best.

Sorry but that's how I feel, smacking is for lazy parents.

[Marc]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Sorry but that's how I feel, smacking is for lazy parents.

Think you need a smack on the bum tbh

[bbfan1991]

I think a little tap is acceptable if kids are being naughty to teach them a lesson that what they did is wrong, although some parents go too far sometimes in wanting to teach them a lesson.

[Redway]

OK...my post on the other thread didn't get an anazing reaction, and I later did change my mind, but for older kids, deffo. I honestly don't have the energy to be ****ed about. I have a terrible temper.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Redway

OK...my post on the other thread didn't get an anazing reaction, and I later did change my mind, but for older kids, deffo. I honestly don't have the energy to be ****ed about. I have a terrible temper.

Get help.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Get help.

I've been saying that since last July when he claimed he'd just lost his entire family in a car pileup.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

I've been saying that since last July when he claimed he'd just lost his entire family in a car pileup.

What?... flippin eck!

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kizzy

What?... flippin eck!

He's a strange one. I'm surprised he came back after he was lynch mobbed off the forum.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

No, a good parent should never have to resort to any sort of violence. Anyone who does it will earn nothing but the full extent of my wrath.

No if a 4 year old is in the Road
Yes a Smack is correct
it tells that child that its Danger.


That is Common Sense Dezzy

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by arista

No if a 4 year old is in the Road
Yes a Smack is correct
it tells that child that its Danger.


That is Common Sense Dezzy

I agree....if the child doesn't respond to being told no and does it again or continues to repeat same bad / dangerous behaviour - words clearly aren't working so I see nothing wrong with a smack on the hand or such.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I agree....if the child doesn't respond to being told no and does it again or continues to repeat same bad / dangerous behaviour - words clearly aren't working so I see nothing wrong with a smack on the hand or such.

This.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I agree....if the child doesn't respond to being told no and does it again or continues to repeat same bad / dangerous behaviour - words clearly aren't working so I see nothing wrong with a smack on the hand or such.

and do you think it's acceptable to hit or abuse anyone else if they don't agree with you? would you hit disabled people, or hit elderly people if they don't agree with you? Why do you think that it's okay to hit children but no one else? I don't understand your logic.

you are making the same arguments that slave owners would make for hitting or whipping slaves.

You are beating sense into them? IS that the logic?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by lostalex

and do you think it's acceptable to hit or abuse anyone else if they don't agree with you? would you hit disabled people, or hit elderly people if they don't agree with you? Why do you think that it's okay to hit children but no one else? I don't understand your logic.

you are making the same arguments that slave owners would make for hitting or whipping slaves.

You are beating sense into them? IS that the logic?

Show me where I said beating formed part of my opinion.........

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Show me where I said beating formed part of my opinion.........

sorry, whatever word you choose to use as your description for abuse and violence.

semantics again.

tell me which word you prefer to represent violence.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by lostalex

and do you think it's acceptable to hit or abuse anyone else if they don't agree with you? would you hit disabled people, or hit elderly people if they don't agree with you? Why do you think that it's okay to hit children but no one else? I don't understand your logic.

you are making the same arguments that slave owners would make for hitting or whipping slaves.

You are beating sense into them? IS that the logic?

It's not about chastising a child because they disagree with you, it's about teaching right from wrong. I personally hate it, say for instance, you are in a supermarket, and a child is being a pain, and the parent whacks them one, hard. That is out of their own short temper, and maybe not the best way to react. It's about teaching by association, if you like. It's not up to us though to decide for other people. There is no right or wrong (unless it is extreme), only our opinions. Everyone has conflicting views, and everybody is different.

Parenthood is a learning process also...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

It's not about chastising a child because they disagree with you, it's about teaching right from wrong. I personally hate it, say for instance, you are in a supermarket, and a child is being a pain, and the parent whacks them one, hard. That is out of their own short temper, and maybe not the best way to react. It's about teaching by association, if you like. It's not up to us though to decide for other people. There is no right or wrong (unless it is extreme), only our opinions. Everyone has conflicting views, and everybody is different.

Parenthood is a learning process also...

Yes exactly, that's the thing, it's almost always done out of anger and frustration as a reaction.

I always found that the best way to handle a toddler having a tantrum was just to completely ignore it, it works far better than shouting or smacking, they're looking for attention from you and even a smack or shouting is attention.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes exactly, that's the thing, it's almost always done out of anger and frustration as a reaction.

I always found that the best way to handle a toddler having a tantrum was just to completely ignore it, it works far better than shouting or smacking, they're looking for attention from you and even a smack or shouting is attention.

Yes, but not always though. As I said, I think it's about learning by association. Whether it be by being sent to their room, taking their things away, or a light tap. The same actions do not work for everyone. Smacking out of personal loss of temper is not the best thing to do imo.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

No if a 4 year old is in the Road
Yes a Smack is correct
it tells that child that its Danger.


That is Common Sense Dezzy

You're wrong Arista. I have never hit my kids and neither have been hit by a car yet and both are well behaved.