[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Except the argument in which he said that to Lisa was 6-8 weeks after the events I mentioned. You know...at the start of the series where Lisa and her crew (Kris in particular) outcasted him, constantly mocked and belittled him for practically no reason at all? And so because he 'couldn't handle normal social interactions', that makes it acceptable for another group of housemates to attack and bully (and I don't use that term loosely like most around here) him does it? Warped logic.

And that's fine, but please do enlighten me on what you suggest people talk about if the housemates that create all the talking points are evicted? Perhaps you don't think talking points are essential, and that's fine - just offer me up some sort of alternative, or explain to me how little or no talking points are supposed to attract the attention of the British press and public? How if there's nothing to chat about in the workplace, on social media sites and on forums, you expect anybody to be bothered about tuning in to watch? And how that is supposed to benefit a programme you seemingly like and support? I'd be delighted to hear your solutions to those...small issues. I'm intrigued even.

Kris also sucked and I'm pretty that's universally known. Just about everything with Freddie's "bullying" was cringe. For the most part, his haters were as awful as he was. But Lisa and David were the only real people by the end and their coven was endearing to me.

I don't care who talks about what because I'm not here to try to create the most objective list of "good Housemates" and based on how much they contributed. I like who I like and I dislike who I dislike no matter how much or how little they contribute. So many people here are obsessed with trying to have the fairest and most objective opinions when there's no need to. If someone sucks, they suck. I don't need to factor in how much someone contributes if I don't like them because they don't have to directly correlate. This has nothing to do with benefiting the show, it's strictly about who I like and who I dislike.