[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

Its discrimination saying someone with a disability shouldn't be in the house.

Yes.. but i haven't seen anyone say that, people have said that he shouldn't be in there if he isn't up to the job of doing the things that everyone needs to do, i personally don't feel this as I've seen that he is quite capable of doing things for himself, he just doesn't need to.. but i can see where people are coming from when they say that, It's not exactly fair on the others if he's in there getting a free ride while everyone else has to play every part of the show and he get's excused from things.
You have to see it from both points of view, not just the one in front of you.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

And it's also a fact that some people of any age (including 18) can be rude and grumpy, a reason why Ashleigh was constantly criticised on this forum because 'that's not how an 18 year old should be acting, they should be happy and enjoying life!!!!!!!'. But it's fine for Gary to be because he's 70? I like Gary, he's probably my favourite housemate, I was just agreeing with the OP that he made a good point and that when you think back to the summer and how many people were fed up with Ashleigh's age being brought up it's just the same thing now with Gary.



I actually agree with this though in most cases. Just pointing out the double standards of saying it's okay for someone older but not someone younger

That's fair enough, tbh I'm not even watching CBB as I was away on holiday up until two days ago so I don't know what Gary is like but I would certainly make some allowances for a 70 year old and fair dues to him for doing it. I did watch BB just gone and I absolutely think Ashleighs age was relevant alot of times too, she was literally just out of school and still only a teenager after all

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Yes.. but i haven't seen anyone say that, people have said that he shouldn't be in there if he isn't up to the job of doing the things that everyone needs to do, i personally don't feel this as I've seen that he is quite capable of doing things for himself, he just doesn't need to.. but i can see where people are coming from when they say that, It's not exactly fair on the others if he's in there getting a free ride while everyone else has to play every part of the show and he get's excused from things.
You have to see it from both points of view, not just the one in front of you.

I have though and that's why I posted what I did.

Gary has only ever been excused from one task, I wouldn't say it was unfair on the others that he never slept outside, he took part in the rest of that task just like anyone else.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Josy

I have though and that's why I posted what I did.

Gary has only ever been excused from one task, I wouldn't say it was unfair on the others that he never slept outside, he took part in the rest of that task just like anyone else.

Again, I'm not watching it but seriously people complaining because BB didn't force a 70 year old to sleep outside? Shame on them

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Again, I'm not watching it but seriously people complaining because BB didn't force a 70 year old to sleep outside? Shame on them

Yeah they have, on here and elsewhere online, also because he isn't cooking and cleaning.

I'm pretty sure there's been a few housemates that were excused from things like that due to age, disabilities etc.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

I have though and that's why I posted what I did.

Gary has only ever been excused from one task, I wouldn't say it was unfair on the others that he never slept outside, he took part in the rest of that task just like anyone else.

No i don't think it's unfair to the others to not make him sleep outside either, but what i think most people have a problem with, is if Big Brother think he's so fragile that he can't sleep outside, or so much so that they asked a housemate to look after him, why was he allowed in the house.. the other celebrities aren't there to look after someone else, so i don't think they should be expected to.
I personally think Gary is capable of doing more for himself that he is doing, if they all left him to his own devices, I'm pretty sure he'd manage fine.

[jet]

It really bothers me that some think if someone is 70 they can no longer look after themselves. Gary can walk, he has two good arms and just 2 years ago he was on celeb apprentice doing all sorts of tasks with a functioning brain. He's not sitting in a rocking chair dribbling ffs.
My wife's father is 83 and is frailer than Gary and insists on his independence as far as possible - and he still plays golf.
Gary should NOT be made to sleep outside, but he could help with some cleaning tasks, make tea etc and he certainly shouldn't need someone to flush the toilet after him.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Yes.. but i haven't seen anyone say that, people have said that he shouldn't be in there if he isn't up to the job of doing the things that everyone needs to do, i personally don't feel this as I've seen that he is quite capable of doing things for himself, he just doesn't need to.. but i can see where people are coming from when they say that, It's not exactly fair on the others if he's in there getting a free ride while everyone else has to play every part of the show and he get's excused from things.
You have to see it from both points of view, not just the one in front of you.

He is entertaining the heck out of me and that is the job.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That's fair enough, tbh I'm not even watching CBB as I was away on holiday up until two days ago so I don't know what Gary is like but I would certainly make some allowances for a 70 year old and fair dues to him for doing it. I did watch BB just gone and I absolutely think Ashleighs age was relevant alot of times too, she was literally just out of school and still only a teenager after all

Have you had a good time ?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

It really bothers me that some think if someone is 70 they can no longer look after themselves. Gary can walk, he has two good arms and just 2 years ago he was on celeb apprentice doing all sorts of tasks with a functioning brain. He's not sitting in a rocking chair dribbling ffs.
My wife's father is 83 and is frailer than Gary and insists on his independence as far as possible - and he still plays golf.
Gary should NOT be made to sleep outside, but he could help with some cleaning tasks, make tea etc and he certainly shouldn't need someone to flush the toilet after him.

70 is not old, far from it

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by jaxie

He is entertaining the heck out of me and that is the job.

Okay..
I'm glad, he's entertaining me too.

[ebandit]

Originally Posted by Josy

Its discrimination saying someone with a disability shouldn't be in the house.

why not? I did not see many with disabilities in the footy world cup finals

...........that's life

Mark L