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Originally Posted by Kyle

Nope. We are talking about a United European standing army, not a coalition of individual nations and their own forces. NATO can still exist outwith the European countries who would become a singular entity.

Europe as a single entity and a nation state in its own right is a pipe dream imo. It would neither be sensible or wanted by the vast majority of European countries and their inhabitants

We're at a bit of a strange point in history really, while its true that global organisations have developed into quite sophisticated frameworks nobody actually wants these organisations to become a singular country. If anything there is a drive for more nations not less; look at the way the ex-USSR and Yugoslav states have broken up, most recently Kosovo, and the way that the independence support has gathered speed in Scotland while there are also separatist movements in Ukraine. Ever more regions want independence to govern affairs but also want to be part of global networks for the trade and movement etc. advantages gained from that. It's an interesting paradox.