[Kyle]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Would be too difficult in practice, nations would all be pulling in different directions and be more or less inclined to commit their forces depending on the particular scenario. Europe has a lot in common and can achieve a lot working together but let's not fool ourselves into thinking we're some monolithic entity who's interests are always going to be the same. Foreign policy is perhaps the biggest area of government in which there would be most disagreement, so much so that any EU military force would probably be rendered impotent through its inability to reach a consensus on anything.

And if a consensus is achieved it can be legitimised by having the full backing of a European coalition of States.

A charter detailing the events and incidents that require the military to intervene in any foreign or internal issue would probably need to be agreed on but it would be a clean slate.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Kyle

And if a consensus is achieved it can be legitimised by having the full backing of a European coalition of States.

A charter detailing the events and incidents that require the military to intervene in any foreign or internal issue would probably need to be agreed on but it would be a clean slate.

Isn't this essentially the purpose of NATO and the UN though?

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Isn't this essentially the purpose of NATO and the UN though?

Nope. We are talking about a United European standing army, not a coalition of individual nations and their own forces. NATO can still exist outwith the European countries who would become a singular entity.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Kyle

Nope. We are talking about a United European standing army, not a coalition of individual nations and their own forces. NATO can still exist outwith the European countries who would become a singular entity.

Europe as a single entity and a nation state in its own right is a pipe dream imo. It would neither be sensible or wanted by the vast majority of European countries and their inhabitants

We're at a bit of a strange point in history really, while its true that global organisations have developed into quite sophisticated frameworks nobody actually wants these organisations to become a singular country. If anything there is a drive for more nations not less; look at the way the ex-USSR and Yugoslav states have broken up, most recently Kosovo, and the way that the independence support has gathered speed in Scotland while there are also separatist movements in Ukraine. Ever more regions want independence to govern affairs but also want to be part of global networks for the trade and movement etc. advantages gained from that. It's an interesting paradox.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kyle

Nope. We are talking about a United European standing army, not a coalition of individual nations and their own forces. NATO can still exist outwith the European countries who would become a singular entity.

No we do not get on in Europe


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