[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I have just bought gavs son gta5 for xmas. Best sleep with one eye open from now on because that game is certain to turn him into a cold blooded psycho killer

My 3 year old has watched me play that game loads,He's not gone out and robbed any cars or beaten up any cops so far

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

My 3 year old has watched me play that game loads,He's not gone out and robbed any cars or beaten up any cops so far

Don't be stupid....




















...he's too young to handle an M4. Give him a few years yet

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

My 3 year old has watched me play that game loads,He's not gone out and robbed any cars or beaten up any cops so far

Aged 3

Very impressionable age, it's the age where you should be teaching, morals, which GTA has none of......good luck with him when he's a teen, i only hope you remember your post when the **** hits the fan.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

Aged 3

Very impressionable age, it's the age where you should be teaching, morals, which GTA has none of......good luck with him when he's a teen, i only hope you remember your post when the **** hits the fan.

Got to love people who look down on people for their parenting skills.

You have just tainted your argument in here completely, you are now saying that the proverbial will hit the fan, because a child sees someone playing a game.. that goes against everything you have said in here so far and the fact that you're questioning someone's parenting.. well, that's just uncalled for.

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Got to love people who look down on people for their parenting skills.

You have just tainted your argument in here completely, you are now saying that the proverbial will hit the fan, because a child sees someone playing a game.. that goes against everything you have said in here so far and the fact that you're questioning someone's parenting.. well, that's just uncalled for.

Nobody knows the future, it's morally wrong to let a child view images of violence like that in GTA, when as parents we should be preserving their childhood and the innocence that goes with childhood, i've had a bad childhood and would never look down on a parents skills, but you are setting yourself up for a nightmare by not putting in boundaries, children need good positive role models.

FYI i'm getting so tired of arguing with know it all teenagers, and their vast life experiences, bore off.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

Nobody knows the future, it's morally wrong to let a child view images of violence like that in GTA, when as parents we should be preserving their childhood and the innocence that goes with childhood, i've had a bad childhood and would never look down on a parents skills, but you are setting yourself up for a nightmare by not putting in boundaries, children need good positive role models.

FYI i'm getting so tired of arguing with know it all teenagers, and their vast life experiences, bore off.

That sentence right there, is looking down on other peoples parenting skills though..

And quite frankly, i don't care what you're tired of, this is a forum for the members to discuss stories and their opinions, if you don't like being disagreed with by 'know it all teenagers' then don't put your opinions out there for them to be disagreed with.

You know nothing about me, or my childhood, so your attitude towards young people that, that sentence shows, is frankly insulting, if a younger person said something like that about the older members here, there'd be outrage and complains flying everywhere.

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

That sentence right there, is looking down on other peoples parenting skills though..

And quite frankly, i don't care what you're tired of, this is a forum for the members to discuss stories and their opinions, if you don't like being disagreed with by 'know it all teenagers' then don't pt your opinions out there for them to be disagreed with.

You know nothing about me, or my childhood, so your attitude towards young people that, that sentence shows, is frankly insulting.

Yes it's for members to discuss, you are condescending and patronizing in your responses to my posts, i don't mind being disagreed with, but you repeatedly try to shoot me down, that's not a discussion, i'm just stating common sense.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

Yes it's for members to discuss, you are condescending and patronizing in your responses to my posts, i don't mind being disagreed with, but you repeatedly try to shoot me down, that's not a discussion, i'm just stating common sense.

'FYI i'm getting so tired of arguing with know it all teenagers, and their vast life experiences, bore off.'

Hmm.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

Yes it's for members to discuss, you are condescending and patronizing in your responses to my posts, i don't mind being disagreed with, but you repeatedly try to shoot me down, that's not a discussion, i'm just stating common sense.

When did i once pantronise you? If i wanted to patronise you i would have.

Your views on things are different from others, you're clearly one of those people who wants kids to be wrapped up in cotton wool and shield them from anything that could possibly be offensive.. a 3 year old watching someone play a game, is not going to turn them into a bad kid or a bad teenager, so you telling people what they 'should' be teaching their kids, is a blatant show of looking down at someone else's parenting.

So what if a child sees someone playing a video game made for over 18's? who cares, by the time they're 13, they'd have probably seen much worse on the Tv anyway.

Kids Tv is hardly rainbows and glitter anyway, look at Tom and Jerry or Scooby-doo.. one is violent and the other is potentially scary, should we ban all kids from watching those too?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

Nobody knows the future, it's morally wrong to let a child view images of violence like that in GTA, when as parents we should be preserving their childhood and the innocence that goes with childhood, i've had a bad childhood and would never look down on a parents skills, but you are setting yourself up for a nightmare by not putting in boundaries, children need good positive role models.

FYI i'm getting so tired of arguing with know it all teenagers, and their vast life experiences, bore off.

You've just completely lost any hope of winning this debate with that response alone.

Kids playing violent games isn't an issue, everyone I knew growing up played Mortal Kombat, Duke Nukem, GTA and all sorts and it hasn't affected me or (as far as I know) anyone else I know because we all knew it was fiction and wasn't reflective on real life and that's the same for millions of people like me who were allowed to play violent games and such when they were kids. There's something fundamentally wrong with the psychopaths that commit these crimes and whether or not they played Call of Duty has nothing to do with it because they'd still have that psychological damage even if they never touhed a games console.

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You've just completely lost any hope of winning this debate with that response alone.

Kids playing violent games isn't an issue, everyone I knew growing up played Mortal Kombat, Duke Nukem, GTA and all sorts and it hasn't affected me or (as far as I know) anyone else I know because we all knew it was fiction and wasn't reflective on real life and that's the same for millions of people like me who were allowed to play violent games and such when they were kids. There's something fundamentally wrong with the psychopaths that commit these crimes and whether or not they played Call of Duty has nothing to do with it because they'd still have that psychological damage even if they never touhed a games console.

There's nothing to win.

An innocent woman was murdered.

Some people are allergic to pennicillin, some.

Some people can't eat gluten, some.

Just maybe some children may be sensitive or have underlying mental health problems/depression that hasn't been picked up and the catalyst for their violent outburst can be related to their violent games, not all children, some.

We don't know as parents what children we have been blessed with, that's why it's important as parents to do our best.

And your argument of violent games were ok for you, they may not be ok for others.

I can eat peanuts, but they could kill my daughter, genetically we are all different, and one rule does not apply for all.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

There's nothing to win.

An innocent woman was murdered.

Some people are allergic to pennicillin, some.

Some people can't eat gluten, some.

Just maybe some children may be sensitive or have underlying mental health problems/depression that hasn't been picked up and the catalyst for their violent outburst can be related to their violent games, not all children, some.

We don't know as parents what children we have been blessed with, that's why it's important as parents to do our best.

And your argument of violent games were ok for you, they may not be ok for others.

I can eat peanuts, but they could kill my daughter, genetically we are all different, and one rule does not apply for all.

Comparing games to allergies is flawed. An allergy cannot kill you if you're not exposed to it yet psychopaths can snap regardless of what triggers they have or have not been exposed to.

Being aware of the signs is a much more effective tool of prevention then blindly blaming games for these crimes. I can't remember the last time there's been an incident like this where there hasn't been signs ahead of time. There's always messages or a change in behavior or something, we just need to raise awareness of it and get people to act (appropriately) when they see troubling signs instead of just ignoring it.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

FYI i'm getting so tired of arguing with know it all teenagers, and their vast life experiences, bore off.

Never had you pegged as someone that would say something like that.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

Aged 3

Very impressionable age, it's the age where you should be teaching, morals, which GTA has none of......good luck with him when he's a teen, i only hope you remember your post when the **** hits the fan.

I do teach him morals,He knows right from wrong and he knows that anything on the telly is not real.He's a happy kid and interacts with other kids brilliantly,He helps them and shares his toys,sweets or anything he has and is always smiling.He helps us look after his little brother and loves him to bits.He is disciplined when he does anything naughty and knows what is bad.Oh yeah,He watched The Walking Dead once too and thought it was hilarious.