[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by ~HO~HO~HO~

So they aren't a rubbish idea then like you first claimed above, plenty of people think the opposite of that and it's been proven over and over again that they can work.

So what if they do, I still think as an aid to stop smoking using something that contains nicotine is rubbish.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by ArchAngel

So what if they do, I still think as an aid to stop smoking using something that contains nicotine is rubbish.

Just because you think something doesn't make it fact though, plenty of people manage to stop with the help of the ecigs as well as other things that contain nicotine like patches, gum etc...if it gets people off of the real cigs then there's nothing rubbish about it IMO.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by ~HO~HO~HO~

Just because you think something doesn't make it fact though, plenty of people manage to stop with the help of the ecigs as well as other things that contain nicotine like patches, gum etc...if it gets people off of the real cigs then there's nothing rubbish about it IMO.

Why are you getting all bent out of shape about what I think on this Josy? If you don't agree I don't care, it doesn't change my view.
If anything I would've thought it would make it more difficult to stop as it's more socially acceptable to vape so you get the nicotine and the hand to mouth thing and your not socially excluded.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by ArchAngel

Why are you getting all bent out of shape about what I think on this Josy? If you don't agree I don't care, it doesn't change my view.
If anything I would've thought it would make it more difficult to stop as it's more socially acceptable to vape so you get the nicotine and the hand to mouth thing and your not socially excluded.

Its a discussion Kizzy. Just because I have a different opinion doesn't mean I'm getting bent out of shape at all, I disagreed with your comment that rubbished a product that has help thousands of people to get off of the real cigs...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by ~HO~HO~HO~

Its a discussion Kizzy. Just because I have a different opinion doesn't mean I'm getting bent out of shape at all, I disagreed with your comment that rubbished a product that has help thousands of people to get off of the real cigs...

Yes it is so allow me my opinion please. Big deal if you feel they've helped people, if there's still nicotine in the cartridge they're still addicted therefore I don't personally see that as helping.
I appreciate you do.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by ArchAngel

Yes it is so allow me my opinion please. Big deal if you feel they've helped people, if there's still nicotine in the cartridge they're still addicted therefore I don't personally see that as helping.
I appreciate you do.

No one said you weren't allowed an opinion but others are allowed to disagree with it.

And yes I think they are a pretty big deal if they help people to stop smoking that have been smoking heavily for years, I also find your theory a bit flawed tbh, it's like saying anyone that was addicted to alcohol is still an addict if they use mouthwash, certain cooking sprays and so on.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by ArchAngel

Why are you getting all bent out of shape about what I think on this Josy? If you don't agree I don't care, it doesn't change my view.

If anything I would've thought it would make it more difficult to stop as it's more socially acceptable to vape so you get the nicotine and the hand to mouth thing and your not socially excluded.

Not in my experience, it's really helped a lot of people I know cut way back (myself) included) and stop completely as well. I don't even vape in public either, I just have a quick blast when I get a craving and it gets rid of it. It does actually help people to cut back and quit so it's far from rubbish

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

Not in my experience, it's really helped a lot of people I know cut way back (myself) included) and stop completely as well. I don't even vape in public either, I just have a quick blast when I get a craving and it gets rid of it. It does actually help people to cut back and quit so it's far from rubbish

It feeds and satisfies your addiction, you're still addicted that's why.
It hasn't helped you quit, because you haven't quit.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by ArchAngel

It feeds and satisfies your addiction, you're still addicted that's why.

It hasn't helped you quit, because you haven't quit.

I haven't yet but I've certainly cut way back, which can only be a good thing, my brother and a couple of other people I know have quit using one of them though