[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I disagree. The man is a disgrace, discriminating against and humiliating that man because of who he chooses to spend his life with.

And then the man going off and making a massive issue out of it that could end the bloke's business and put people out of work.

And I say this as someone who believes you should live your life in the happiest way possible, whoever you are, whatever your sexual pursuasian... and whether or not you're a Christian.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Does the bible say that, if not it's not really comparable is it?

So basically no you would think discriminating against a black person would be wrong then but gay people are fair game? Interesting

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

And then the man going off and making a massive issue out of it that could end the bloke's business and put people out of work.

And I say this as someone who believes you should live your life in the happiest way possible, whoever you are, whatever your sexual pursuasian... and whether or not you're a Christian.

By telling the truth about how he was treated? That sounds like victim blaming

[Livia]

You're only disagreeing with me because I'm Jewish

[Nedusa]

The printing firm can decide who they do business with, it's as simple as that. It's nobody else's business how they decide on their customers.

Another non story blown up by the "gay brigade"....

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

You're only disagreeing with me because I'm Jewish

True

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So basically no you would think discriminating against a black person would be wrong then but gay people are fair game? Interesting

Nope never said that.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

The printing firm can decide who they do business with, it's as simple as that. It's nobody else's business how they decide on their customers.

Another non story blown up by the "gay brigade"....

Well maybe not, there are anti discrimination laws over here and this guy had been a customer of his for 4 years already

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

if I printer refused my business I would say

"dont you take that tone with me"

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Nope never said that.

You never answered the question I asked though so that was the conclusion I came to from your side stepping

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well maybe not, there are anti discrimination laws over here and this guy had been a customer of his for 4 years already

Do the anti-discrimination laws apply to Christians, or... not.

[Marsh.]

A gay hairdresser?! WTF?????

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

The printing firm can decide who they do business with, it's as simple as that. It's nobody else's business how they decide on their customers.

Another non story blown up by the "gay brigade"....

Now this... this is prejudice.

No religious reasoning just an example of pure bigotry.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well maybe not, there are anti discrimination laws over here and this guy had been a customer of his for 4 years already

If they don't want to do business with that person then that is their choice, everything else is just supposition.

You cannot be forced to give work to people because they are Gay...lol

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Do the anti-discrimination laws apply to Christians, or... not.

Sure but Christians don't have special rules just because they're Christians, they'll have to follow the rules like every other person

[Jessica.]

As I said previously, I don't think such a big deal should have been made about it but it's an extremely ridiculous reason to refuse service and it was probably very upsetting for the couple who were probably very happy to be taking a huge step towards their big day.

Another thing I don't understand is that I haven't seen anyone stories about people refusing service to people who break other rules the bible says such as don't get tattoos or eat pork. It even says not to drink alcohol in a church. Why is the gay stuff the only thing people find so offensive?

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Now this... this is prejudice.

No religious reasoning just an example of pure bigotry.

Oh for goodness sake get off your Politically correct high horse...

People make choices what they do... and if they don't want to give work to someone for whatever reason that is their choice

Plain and simple

Enough of the bigotry nonsense

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

As I said previously, I don't think such a big deal should have been made about it but it's an extremely ridiculous reason to refuse service and it was probably very upsetting for the couple who were probably very happy to be taking a huge step towards their big day.

Another thing I don't understand is that I haven't seen anyone stories about people refusing service to people who break other rules the bible says such as don't get tattoos or eat pork. It even says not to drink alcohol in a church. Why is the gay stuff the only thing people find so offensive?

Yep or refusing to do wedding invitations for a woman or man who is divorced

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Sure but Christians don't have special rules just because they're Christians, they'll have to follow the rules like every other person

So gay people's rights outweigh Christians' right to religious freedom?

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Livia

So gay people's rights outweigh Christians' right to religious freedom?

If a gay couple had a business and they refused to serve straight people, that would be disgusting behaviour as well.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

As I said previously, I don't think such a big deal should have been made about it but it's an extremely ridiculous reason to refuse service and it was probably very upsetting for the couple who were probably very happy to be taking a huge step towards their big day.

Another thing I don't understand is that I haven't seen anyone stories about people refusing service to people who break other rules the bible says such as don't get tattoos or eat pork. It even says not to drink alcohol in a church. Why is the gay stuff the only thing people find so offensive?

Not drinking alcohol in church isn't really the same thing.

It's like saying a library wants you to be quiet..... throughout your life.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Not drinking alcohol in church isn't really the same thing.

It's like saying a library wants you to be quiet..... throughout your life.

Well who decides what to ignore and what not to? I just don't understand it.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yep or refusing to do wedding invitations for a woman or man who is divorced

Do they normally include that on the invitations?

"You are cordially invited to Alicia Jenkins' fifth wedding in 10 years"

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Well who decides what to ignore and what not to? I just don't understand it.

Well not drinking in church =/= never drink alcohol.

Just as if I didn't allow people to wear shoes in my house on my lovely carpet doesn't mean I don't agree with shoes.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

So gay people's rights outweigh Christians' right to religious freedom?

I believe so in this circumstance yeah. I mean, anyone can start a religion and say X, Y and Z is against my religion, so I think sticking to Human rights trumping religious rights is a good plan. There's plenty of stuff that came out of the Bible that religions have dropped already because it's so out of step with modern society already.