[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Livia

Do the anti-discrimination laws apply to Christians, or... not.

Sure but Christians don't have special rules just because they're Christians, they'll have to follow the rules like every other person

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Sure but Christians don't have special rules just because they're Christians, they'll have to follow the rules like every other person

So gay people's rights outweigh Christians' right to religious freedom?

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Livia

So gay people's rights outweigh Christians' right to religious freedom?

If a gay couple had a business and they refused to serve straight people, that would be disgusting behaviour as well.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

If a gay couple had a business and they refused to serve straight people, that would be disgusting behaviour as well.

That's not the same thing Jess at all, Jess!

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

If a gay couple had a business and they refused to serve straight people, that would be disgusting behaviour as well.

That would be personal and nothing to do with religious observance though.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That would be personal and nothing to do with religious observance though.

What if a person started up a religion where that was one of the rules, would it be ok then?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

What if a person started up a religion where that was one of the rules, would it be ok then?

Reaching a bit here Niamh... I was referring to the established churches in Ireland at the moment, I'm not discussing hypothetical religion.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Reaching a bit here Niamh... I was referring to the established churches in Ireland at the moment, I'm not discussing hypothetical religion.

Not really, if the precedent is set for people to discriminate as long as they're part of a religion, what's to stop people from starting up religions with any "rules" they want?

[Cherry Christmas]

If it goes against his Christian beliefs why should he be forced into it, we can't have "freedom of speech and expression" if only one side is heard, just go somewhere else and stop creating a drama out of it

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Livia

So gay people's rights outweigh Christians' right to religious freedom?

I believe so in this circumstance yeah. I mean, anyone can start a religion and say X, Y and Z is against my religion, so I think sticking to Human rights trumping religious rights is a good plan. There's plenty of stuff that came out of the Bible that religions have dropped already because it's so out of step with modern society already.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I believe so in this circumstance yeah. I mean, anyone can start a religion and say X, Y and Z is against my religion, so I think sticking to Human rights trumping religious rights is a good plan. There's plenty of stuff that came out of the Bible that religions have dropped already because it's so out of step with modern society already.

Can't they just live and let live, respect each other's beliefs and lifestyle and not burden the rest of us with a storm in a teacup, hmmm?

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Livia

Can't they just live and let live, respect each other's beliefs and lifestyle and not burden the rest of us with a storm in a teacup, hmmm?

It probably doesn't feel like such a storm in a tea cup to that couple

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It probably doesn't feel like such a storm in a tea cup to that couple

Oh for Goodness sake.........not everyone likes Gay people or Gay marriage etc, especially if they are religious and are brainwashed by traditional religious dogma.

Some people are never going to welcome gay people with open arms.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Oh for Goodness sake.........not everyone likes Gay people or Gay marriage etc, especially if they are religious and are brainwashed by traditional religious dogma.

Some people are never going to welcome gay people with open arms.

Nobody is asking anybody to like gay people or gay lifestyle. All they have to do is stop being discriminatory to potential customers.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Oh for Goodness sake.........not everyone likes Gay people or Gay marriage etc, especially if they are religious and are brainwashed by traditional religious dogma.

Some people are never going to welcome gay people with open arms.

Oh for Goodness sake.........not everyone likes Black people or Black to white marriage etc, especially if they are religious and are brainwashed by traditional religious dogma.

Some people are never going to welcome Black people with open arms

sound different now?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It probably doesn't feel like such a storm in a tea cup to that couple

If it's tainted their life to such an extent, then they really need a reality check. Unless there's only one printer in Ireland. You could offer to do them on your computer, Niamh! If you do I want 10% for bringing the business in.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Livia

If it's tainted their life to such an extent, then they really need a reality check. Unless there's only one printer in Ireland. You could offer to do them on your computer, Niamh! If you do I want 10% for bringing the business in.

Nivia Printers, I like it