[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That would be personal and nothing to do with religious observance though.

What if a person started up a religion where that was one of the rules, would it be ok then?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

What if a person started up a religion where that was one of the rules, would it be ok then?

Reaching a bit here Niamh... I was referring to the established churches in Ireland at the moment, I'm not discussing hypothetical religion.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Reaching a bit here Niamh... I was referring to the established churches in Ireland at the moment, I'm not discussing hypothetical religion.

Not really, if the precedent is set for people to discriminate as long as they're part of a religion, what's to stop people from starting up religions with any "rules" they want?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Not really, if the precedent is set for people to discriminate as long as they're part of a religion, what's to stop people from starting up religions with any "rules" they want?

It wouldn't be part of a long standing religious doctrine stretching back through generations and written thousands of years ago.
Anything with views like this wouldn't get off the ground in the modern day.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It wouldn't be part of a long standing religious doctrine stretching back through generations and written thousands of years ago.
Anything with views like this wouldn't get off the ground in the modern day.

Exactly.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Exactly.

Exactly what? ... you're hypothetical modern religion analogy proves nothing.
It has nothing to do with this as the onus is on established religious beliefs, they cannot be changed along with cultural norms.
He hasn't incited any hatred or made public his view it was his own personal interpretation of text. If we seek to change what would that entail?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Exactly what? ... you're hypothetical modern religion analogy proves nothing.
It has nothing to do with this as the onus is on established religious beliefs, they cannot be changed along with cultural norms.
He hasn't incited any hatred or made public his view it was his own personal interpretation of text. If we seek to change what would that entail?

Exactly as in people wouldn't get away with starting up a religion nowadays with such out dated, sexist and homophobic views so therefore we should not allow already existing religions that hold similar views get away with discrimination just because they say it's part of their religious beliefs. I mean if Religious people are allowed to discriminate because of their religion but non religious people aren't isn't that discriminating against non religious homophobes?

[Cherie]

If it goes against his Christian beliefs why should he be forced into it, we can't have "freedom of speech and expression" if only one side is heard, just go somewhere else and stop creating a drama out of it