[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well not drinking in church =/= never drink alcohol.

Just as if I didn't allow people to wear shoes in my house on my lovely carpet doesn't mean I don't agree with shoes.

But people drink in church all the time Morsh, the priests have wine to represent Jesus' blood.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

If a gay couple had a business and they refused to serve straight people, that would be disgusting behaviour as well.

That's not the same thing Jess at all, Jess!

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

But people drink in church all the time Morsh, the priests have wine to represent Jesus' blood.

So where did you get the "no alcohol" rule from? Your arse?

[Crimson Dynamo]

would the christian printer have to have gay sex with the couple?

if so then I am with the printer here, sorry


I know that the gays are keen for new members but that is too far



(perhaps a handjob if it were a big order)

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I believe so in this circumstance yeah. I mean, anyone can start a religion and say X, Y and Z is against my religion, so I think sticking to Human rights trumping religious rights is a good plan. There's plenty of stuff that came out of the Bible that religions have dropped already because it's so out of step with modern society already.

Can't they just live and let live, respect each other's beliefs and lifestyle and not burden the rest of us with a storm in a teacup, hmmm?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

would the christian printer have to have gay sex with the couple?

if so then I am with the printer here, sorry


I know that the gays are keen for new members but that is too far



(perhaps a handjob if it were a big order)

LOL... you're an arse, LT.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

would the christian printer have to have gay sex with the couple?

if so then I am with the printer here, sorry


I know that the gays are keen for new members but that is too far



(perhaps a handjob if it were a big order)

How heavy is that fcuking Dog in your Avatar picture......

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So where did you get the "no alcohol" rule from? Your arse?

Leviticus 10:9 “Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die.”

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Can't they just live and let live, respect each other's beliefs and lifestyle and not burden the rest of us with a storm in a teacup, hmmm?

It probably doesn't feel like such a storm in a tea cup to that couple

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Leviticus 10:9 “Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die.”

Don't be silly, no ones going to fit in the tabernacle Jess

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

If a gay couple had a business and they refused to serve straight people, that would be disgusting behaviour as well.

That would be personal and nothing to do with religious observance though.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Don't be silly, no ones going to fit in the tabernacle Jess

Back then the tabernacle was basically a pop-up church, silly.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It probably doesn't feel like such a storm in a tea cup to that couple

Oh for Goodness sake.........not everyone likes Gay people or Gay marriage etc, especially if they are religious and are brainwashed by traditional religious dogma.

Some people are never going to welcome gay people with open arms.

[Mokka]

Similar case in the states:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...cake/22771685/

Bakery owners end up losing their business and will be paying a hefty fine for their "religious stance"

Was it worth it?

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Oh for Goodness sake.........not everyone likes Gay people or Gay marriage etc, especially if they are religious and are brainwashed by traditional religious dogma.

Some people are never going to welcome gay people with open arms.

Nobody is asking anybody to like gay people or gay lifestyle. All they have to do is stop being discriminatory to potential customers.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That would be personal and nothing to do with religious observance though.

What if a person started up a religion where that was one of the rules, would it be ok then?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It probably doesn't feel like such a storm in a tea cup to that couple

If it's tainted their life to such an extent, then they really need a reality check. Unless there's only one printer in Ireland. You could offer to do them on your computer, Niamh! If you do I want 10% for bringing the business in.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Nobody is asking anybody to like gay people or gay lifestyle. All they have to do is stop being discriminatory to potential customers.

Hang on a minute.........surely if they don't agree with Gay Marriage their actions in refusing to give work to this man will always be viewed as discriminatory.........

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Oh for Goodness sake.........not everyone likes Gay people or Gay marriage etc, especially if they are religious and are brainwashed by traditional religious dogma.

Some people are never going to welcome gay people with open arms.

Oh for Goodness sake.........not everyone likes Black people or Black to white marriage etc, especially if they are religious and are brainwashed by traditional religious dogma.

Some people are never going to welcome Black people with open arms

sound different now?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

What if a person started up a religion where that was one of the rules, would it be ok then?

Reaching a bit here Niamh... I was referring to the established churches in Ireland at the moment, I'm not discussing hypothetical religion.

[Livia]

The thing that really aggravates me about these stories is... and this isn't going to be popular... but if that couple had gone to a Muslim printer and he's refused them, I think most people would have said well, fair enough then...

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh for Goodness sake.........not everyone likes Black people or Black to white marriage etc, especially if they are religious and are brainwashed by traditional religious dogma.

Some people are never going to welcome Black people with open arms

sound different now?

What's your point............???

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

If it's tainted their life to such an extent, then they really need a reality check. Unless there's only one printer in Ireland. You could offer to do them on your computer, Niamh! If you do I want 10% for bringing the business in.

Nivia Printers, I like it

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

As much as it was a ****ty thing for him to do.. in the grand scheme of things, it's his business, so who can choose to serve and not serve whoever he sees fit, his beliefs are his and he's fully entitled to have them.

I agree with this entirely.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Livia

The thing that really aggravates me about these stories is... and this isn't going to be popular... but if that couple had gone to a Muslim printer and he's refused them, I think most people would have said well, fair enough then...

if this was the case, it wouldn't even reach the media/social websites etc etc

the main reason people are so bothered about it is because they can bitch about christians