[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Exactly Christians should have atleast the same rights as muslims.But this couple would'nt have gone to a muslim printers because they know the answer they'd get and they'd probably accept it easier because they're muslim.

I don't think there are very many Muslim printers over here tbqh, I work in a business that deal with alot of printers around the country for the last 15 years and so far I haven't come across one

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

* really want's to post the 'down with this sorta ting' gif *

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't think there are very many Muslim printers over here tbqh, I work in a business that deal with alot of printers around the country for the last 15 years and so far I haven't come across one

But let's say hypothetically that there was. And there will be at some point.... would it be wrong for him to refuse to print wedding invitations for a gay couple based on his strong religious beliefs, even though he'd served them with other things previously?

[Glenn.]

Where did my post go?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

But let's say hypothetically that there was. And there will be at some point.... would it be wrong for him to refuse to print wedding invitations for a gay couple based on his strong religious beliefs, even though he'd served them with other things previously?

Of course it would. Why would I make an exception for Muslims?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

* reports Niamh for posting gifs in SD *

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

* reports Niamh for posting gifs in SD *

whoops

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Of course it would. Why would I make an exception for Muslims?

Because there'd be a outcry! Lots of middle-class white people would be incensed you'd expected a Muslin to go against his beliefs!

Morning Niamh, by the way...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Because there'd be a outcry! Lots of middle-class white people would be incensed you'd expected a Muslin to go against his beliefs!

Morning Niamh, by the way...

Morning

I know you're right of course, there would probably alot of people defending Muslims that condemn Christians for the same thing, of course you'd also have the other extreme of people taking a harder pop because they're Muslims as well. For me personally, I would feel the same no matter what religion it was, discrimination is discrimination

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Morning

I know you're right of course, there would probably alot of people defending Muslims that condemn Christians for the same thing, of course you'd also have the other extreme of people taking a harder pop because they're Muslims as well. For me personally, I would feel the same no matter what religion it was, discrimination is discrimination

I've played Devil's Advocate for much of this thread... of course if you're offering a service you have to be willing to offer a full service to everyone. When I lived in London I had a corner shop run by a Muslim who sold alcohol and ham...

[Kizzy]

It would still be against the law then I presume?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I've played Devil's Advocate for much of this thread... of course if you're offering a service you have to be willing to offer a full service to everyone. When I lived in London I had a corner shop run by a Muslim who sold alcohol and ham...

Well there you go lol, it just seems that it's always the gay agenda that some religions seem to take the most strong "stand" against

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well there you go lol, it just seems that it's always the gay agenda that some religions seem to take the most strong "stand" against

I suppose gays are the new kids on the block when it comes to rights. In the future it'll be unthinkable that anyone could be discriminated against for falling in love and wanting to marry.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I suppose gays are the new kids on the block when it comes to rights. In the future it'll be unthinkable that anyone could be discriminated against for falling in love and wanting to marry.

Lets hope so

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Chapters 18 and 20 of Leviticus, which form part of the Holiness code and list prohibited forms of intercourse, contain the following verses:

"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination."

"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."


Paul the Apostle wrote in the First Epistle to the Corinthians,


“ Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God."


So the printers are correct as Bible believing Christians to abhor homosexuality as it says so it their instruction manual

no they are not correct, the quotes you gave said that men shall not lie with a man as he does with a woman. gay men don't lie with women at all, so they don't lie with men as they do with women.

The bible is only against bisexuality, not homosexuality. and it says nothing about lesbianism.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by lostalex

no they are not correct, the quotes you gave said that men shall not lie with a man as he does with a woman. gay men don't lie with women at all, so they don't lie with men as they do with women.

The bible is only against bisexuality, not homosexuality. and it says nothing about lesbianism.

it depends on what translation you use

God is not keen on cross dressers also

The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. Deuteronomy 22:5

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

it depends on what translation you use

God is not keen on cross dressers also

The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. Deuteronomy 22:5

These rules don't sound very "Godlike"

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

it depends on what translation you use

God is not keen on cross dressers also

The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. Deuteronomy 22:5

You're sure that's God and not Trinny and Susannah?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Youtube video

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

You're sure that's God and not Trinny and Susannah?

they look like blokes wearing womens clothes them 2 hags

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

You're sure that's God and not Trinny and Susannah?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Livia

I've played Devil's Advocate for much of this thread... of course if you're offering a service you have to be willing to offer a full service to everyone. When I lived in London I had a corner shop run by a Muslim who sold alcohol and ham...

You make that sound like it is unusual, it isn't

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The same kind of thing happened in England, this sort of thing doesn't happen regularly over here I can assure you

Isn't that the point these guys can go a mole down the road and get the job done, so what is all the fuss about

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Isn't that the point these guys can go a mole down the road and get the job done, so what is all the fuss about

It's discrimination and shouldn't happen, that's what it about

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's discrimination and shouldn't happen, that's what it about

Aren't the gays discriminating against the publishers right to practice his religion fully, and where does freedom of expression fit into all this or are some groups more worthy than others we could go round in circles for ever with this one, key point is they will probably get it done for free elsewhere, and I doubt I will be invited to what is turning out to be the event of the year