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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yes, yes I did arista, how about you stick to voicing your own opinion and I'll add mine as and when I see fit?
Then we won't get anyone commenting on what they think you think I think.

Very well put Kizzy.

It could have worked,Kinnock commanded a lot of respect in the Labour party and perhaps Ed's ideals were more founded on his than Blair's.
Kinnock didn't get the full reward and credit for the way he transformed the Labour party.

Blair turned it into a milder form of the Conservative party and that is something I would hate the Labour party to try to do again.
No more daft tags like 'new' Labour for me. No thank you.