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Old 24-05-2015, 09:57 AM #1
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I still don't see why we need a referendum really. If 'the people need to have their say' on every major issue then why don't we have a referendum on our UN membership, or being a part of Nato? Why don't we have a referendum on the monarchy? That's not how it works, we elect our representatives every few years to entrust them with these decisions and so that they can enforce their policies, and the vast majority of us vote for parties which support EU membership. If people want us to leave the EU then they should vote for a party which upholds that stance - UKIP.

Having said that at least this will hopefully draw a line under it for the next few decades, but there's gonna be several months of annoying speculation and instability in the build up to it
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I still don't see why we need a referendum really. If 'the people need to have their say' on every major issue then why don't we have a referendum on our UN membership, or being a part of Nato? Why don't we have a referendum on the monarchy? That's not how it works, we elect our representatives every few years to entrust them with these decisions and so that they can enforce their policies, and the vast majority of us vote for parties which support EU membership. If people want us to leave the EU then they should vote for a party which upholds that stance - UKIP.

Having said that at least this will hopefully draw a line under it for the next few decades, but there's gonna be several months of annoying speculation and instability in the build up to it




There could be over a year at least as to that now.

I recall reading that Margaret Thatcher was massively opposed to referenda at all, she said govts. were elected to govern and then either held support or got thrown out later as to the decisions they took.

I think they hold uncertain outcomes that if they are held on an issue where balanced and true facts are likely to be clouded at best.

I sense,maybe, there is a feeling in Westminster to help David Cameron on this issue now,
He could yet be the Prime Minister,on his own efforts, that presides over the UK sleepwalking out of the EU,which would then likely lead to the Scots screaming for another independence referendum too in light of that event.

So I feel Labour now also realise the dangers of a major split on the EU being disastrous.
If they have any chance of all as to being a majority govt. in 2020,then they may have just realised the chaos there could be in the event of a no result.
So I just hope the UK votes to stay in and more to the point, conclusively too.
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I still don't see why we need a referendum really. If 'the people need to have their say' on every major issue then why don't we have a referendum on our UN membership, or being a part of Nato? Why don't we have a referendum on the monarchy? That's not how it works, we elect our representatives every few years to entrust them with these decisions and so that they can enforce their policies, and the vast majority of us vote for parties which support EU membership. If people want us to leave the EU then they should vote for a party which upholds that stance - UKIP.

Having said that at least this will hopefully draw a line under it for the next few decades, but there's gonna be several months of annoying speculation and instability in the build up to it

I think a referendum is required when enough momentum builds behind a cause that none of the potential governments are prepared to support. Being realistic, UKIP could never be an elected government because they do not have the strength and depth (as of now)

The system works fine without referendum when there are genuine choices available
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I still don't see why we need a referendum really. If 'the people need to have their say' on every major issue then why don't we have a referendum on our UN membership, or being a part of Nato? Why don't we have a referendum on the monarchy? That's not how it works, we elect our representatives every few years to entrust them with these decisions and so that they can enforce their policies, and the vast majority of us vote for parties which support EU membership. If people want us to leave the EU then they should vote for a party which upholds that stance - UKIP.

Having said that at least this will hopefully draw a line under it for the next few decades, but there's gonna be several months of annoying speculation and instability in the build up to it
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