[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..not purposefully no Kaz and I think that many people haven't...whatever their opinions on someone, they realise that's only their perspective and don't feel the need to project their negativity on that person because they could be wrong in their views anyway and that's quite often the case as well...but others will always disagree with their negative opinion anyway because that's their different perspective of that person...also the reason that Helen is one of the people who was chosen to go back is because she's not representative of 'every day people' but is quite extreme in a negative way in that she does project her own her opinions/which is all they are and not 'truth' at all onto others with glee and without thought...and yes Jack is overweight I agree but insulting him/being derogatory about him will only ever lower his self esteem even further and increase any health issues it may cause him....the 'Helens' will only ever make others feel worse about themselves so is never a good thing....

I've seen time and time again on this forum hideous defamation of a housemate for their looks or their occupation does that not come under the umbrella for consideration as a confidence/esteem affecting slight?
the nasty comments aimed towards older hms or those who have had surgery these too may have issues and yet there are countless threads and derogatory comments made about them.
The reason that comments about Jack are seized upon is becouse he is an 'everyday person' someone who is considered 'normal' lovely grumbly chubby jack is just like lots of teens we know.... should that exempt him from criticism should we all redirect our ire to the damaged goods like harry maybe?
Helen can and does say what she likes, as does joel if you've noticed with his little monologues on immorality, they are no less cutting only the delivery is different. When people say hurtful things if you sugar the pill it's still poison, I know this.