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Originally Posted by cfromhx02

I don't think anyone can really be classified as a Real Man,and Certainly Not A Hard Man or be classified as a real Woman unless they are grown up enough to admit to their problems and face them head on,

which both Marc and Helen are scared stiff too,and think maybe Nick is too

and grown up enough to admit when they are in the wrong.

That Marc and Helen can never admit they are in the wrong and that Nick often avoids admitting he is in the wrong which is pathetic from them all shows they are not really mature and until they admit these things never will be.

A real man or woman admits to their faults quickly,because they are brave enough to face their own faults and brave enough to admit to them publicly and will try to sort out any probs which come from them as quickly as they can.

I don't think you get to define what's regarded as grown up. Allowing Marc and Helen to be treated as spoiled kids sounds like excusing their behavior, they should own up to crap they do.

As for Nick, I'm not sure why you think he's not aware of his problems. From early on he was more judgy with himself than he was with anyone else. He even admitted that. And despite admitting his problems, I don't think he'll ever change them, he has no reason to.