[Ashsleigh]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..oh and it's not just members either who are deemed 'irrelevant'...how irrelevant was Riggins Retreat or The Lounge in terms of a chat thread until behaviour has got the other one closed...well their irrelevance was because they have never ever contained packs but they're very relevant now it seems...seriously, try to step back and look at this because it's a very real thing atm and has been for a little while ...it's not big, it's not clever and it's extremely grim ...and it most definitely does not make someone part of a 'cool crowd' because it's far from being cool...

But it's not just about being "cool", I enjoy speaking with the people that I'm supposedly in a "pack" with and I can't be bothered to not speak to them just to please the odd few. And it's not like we're isolating ourselves either, it's actually others isolating us because of this pack business. That's how I feel anyway. The only people who associate us together are those who aren't us.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

But it's not just about being "cool", I enjoy speaking with the people that I'm supposedly in a "pack" with and I can't be bothered to not speak to them just to please the odd few. And it's not like we're isolating ourselves either, it's actually others isolating us because of this pack business. That's how I feel anyway. The only people who associate us together are those who aren't us.

...yeah, that really is part of it, that there has for a long time been an 'us' thing in one chat thread and not everyone is made to feel welcomed in the same way and sometimes in a very 'pack' way so not just a thing of a personality clash just between two people and allowing them to sort that out just themselves...it's just good for people to step back and get some perspective because I'm sure that many aren't even aware it's happening...