[Livia]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

It's like when the black lady was cast as Hermione and the whole backlash it got showed how there is still a way to go.

Hermione is essentially a race neutral character and the kicking off about it was ridiculous.

In the Potter books, Hermoine came back from France with a suntan. Hardly race neutral.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

In the Potter books, Hermoine came back from France with a suntan. Hardly race neutral.

http://time.com/4156751/jk-rowling-b...mione-granger/

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Livia

In the Potter books, Hermoine came back from France with a suntan. Hardly race neutral.

Not according to J K Rowling.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b014efe0d6389c

[Livia]

So the reference to her getting a suntan, and her face flushing red... they just mean nothing now.

I recall also that JK Rowling retained the right of having a say in casting when she sold the film rights and was directly involved in casting Harry, Ron and Hermoine
. As there are other black characters in the book, I'm surprised that she didn't ensure Hermoine was played by a black actress.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

So the reference to her getting a suntan, and her face flushing red... they just mean nothing now.

2 shakey references and suddenly Hermoine can never be played by a black actor? Also I'm pretty sure black people blush too

[Alf]

Is James Bond race neutral?

Because I hear Idris Elba is being considered.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by wannashag

Is James Bond race neutral?

Because I hear Idris Elba is being considered.

No he is not race-neutral. He is white in the books. But what's more, a black man could not integrate in the places that James Bond did. A black Bond would be a terrible spy. What's more, Bond is an established character.

How about we have a white Luthur next time?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

2 shakey references and suddenly Hermoine can never be played by a black actor? Also I'm pretty sure black people blush too

I added another bit to my comment after you wrote this.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

No he is not race-neutral. He is white in the books. But what's more, a black man could not integrate in the places that James Bond did. A black Bond would be a terrible spy. What's more, Bond is an established character.

How about we have a white Luthur next time?

Is he Scottish or Irish or English in the books?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by wannashag

Is James Bond race neutral?

Because I hear Idris Elba is being considered.

If Idris get the role then he would be one of the best actors to have ever played the part. Should we rule him out just because he doesn't fit into the characters ethnicity even though he's a superior actor?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

So the reference to her getting a suntan, and her face flushing red... they just mean nothing now.

I recall also that JK Rowling retained the right of having a say in casting when she sold the film rights and was directly involved in casting Harry, Ron and Hermoine
. As there are other black characters in the book, I'm surprised that she didn't ensure Hermoine was played by a black actress.

why would she? sounds to me like she just wasn't bothered whether Hermoine was played by a black or a white actress?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

If Idris get the role then he would be one of the best actors to have ever played the part. Should we rule him out just because he doesn't fit into the characters ethnicity even though he's a superior actor?

No one will ever top Sir Roger as Bond.

So you believe a White actor should have been considered for the role of Nelson Mandella? That's what the second part of your statement says to me?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by wannashag

No one will ever top Sir Roger as Bond.

So you believe a White actor should have been considered for the role of Nelson Mandella? That's what the second part of your statement says to me?

Nelson Mandela is not a fictional character.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by wannashag

No one will ever top Sir Roger as Bond.

So you believe a White actor should have been considered for the role of Nelson Mandella? That's what the second part of your statement says to me?

Don't be silly, Nelson Mandela is a real historic figure, James Bond is not, him being white isn't vital to the story

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by wannashag

No one will ever top Sir Roger as Bond.

So you believe a White actor should have been considered for the role of Nelson Mandella? That's what the second part of your statement says to me?

..there is a huge difference though wanna, with a fictional character and someone in real life...

[Alf]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Nelson Mandela is not a fictional character.

You didn't say fictional.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by wannashag

You didn't say fictional.

Did I need to say that? I thought you would assume.

[Alf]

Ok do you think a White actor should have been considered for the lead role in Boyz and the Hood?

[Ammi]

..oh, must type quicker...I know it was just a one off character..(unless there are sequels..)...but Denzel recently played the lead in The Equalizer..I hadn't actually realised that it was based on the old series but that character was white in the series and Denzel stepped into the role beautifully, without any thought really other than to his acting...(it was a bit naff and corny I have to say/the movie but you know what I mean..)..

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by wannashag

Ok do you think a White actor should have been considered for the lead role in Boyz and the Hood?

If he was good enough and could carry the part then yes. I would have no problem with it.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by wannashag

Ok do you think a White actor should have been considered for the lead role in Boyz and the Hood?

..not when it's about something with a predominantly black population but that's it though isn't it...black actors seem to mainly get parts which would be specific to that..not so much the 'neutral' parts....

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by wannashag

Ok do you think a White actor should have been considered for the lead role in Boyz and the Hood?

Been along time since I watched that movie but isn't Boyz n the hood specifically about racial issues? That would be like saying a black guy could play Edward Nortons character in American History X............clearly not. However could a white guy play Will Smiths part in I Am Legend? Absolutely

[Alf]

silly me calling it Boyz And the hood, you know I mean n


I am a first class turd sometimes.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by wannashag

silly me calling it Boyz And the hood, you know I mean n


I am a first class turd sometimes.

......yeah well we didn't like to say/awkward moment passed...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by wannashag

silly me calling it Boyz And the hood, you know I mean n


I am a first class turd sometimes.

Is that a dig at me? :/ I knew what you meant, I never said otherwise