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..I guess that (as well as having our own opinions..)..we can only go on our own experiences as well and in this school it could be a 'growing trend', but in ours, it's really just more isolated occasions that some parents sometimes wear pjs for the school drop off but it is only sometimes with those parents and only occasionally, not something that is an every day or regular thing...it's funny though, quite a few years ago we did have a parent who would do it more regularly/a dad...although it was commented on by other parents, it was commented on affectionately and in a jokey way...he was a very popular dad (very good looking..)..very charismatic, very charming etc and there he would be in the playground surrounded by mums all joking with him that he had his pjs on again and fluttering around him.....anyways, he had 10 children of all ages and had 3 school runs to do, plus pre school children as well..he also ran his own business, as did his wife/mum as well, she had her own business, both very busy people in every way...when it was his school run day, he (mostly..)...got the children to school on time, in his lovely pjs...when it was mum's day to do the school run..?...the children were often and mostly a little late but she was always fully and smartly dressed for work...there was a lot of criticism (from parents..)...that she could never get the children to school on time and yet those same parents, fluttering around her husband and joking that he was wearing his pjs again....hmmmm, can't win for losing I guess...


...anyways I'm probably biased in this because (again in my experience..)..I'm not a fan of academy schools, which this school is...for me, there just isn't the same ethos and family values/families working together..it's more about the business side...their website really bothers me for them to be a school who are making an issue out of this/focusing on it because all there is on the site are empty rooms...empty classrooms, empty halls, empty libraries...no focus on children and what the school has to offer and all od the happy, smiley faces of children doing activities, some of which parents participate in, as well as showing them in lessons...a website is not just for parent information, it's a 'showcase' of what a school offers for anyone who is new to the area or is looking to transfer their child to another school/for whatever that reason may be...so they're worried about parents wearing pjs as being a 'wrong impression'/bad example or whatever..if I was looking at a school to send my child to, I wouldn't care about parents in pjs but I would worry about the non focus on the children and their families...and it wouldn't be a school I would be interested in...I would want to feel my child is happy in their school environment would be the focal thing...

..the other thing is, the letter in itself...was the first communication with this..?..there are other ways of discussing this, we have a parent forum each term which would be the place to approach this and actually talk about it with the parents/discuss it and what their reasons are if it's felt that it's becoming a growing trend/a 'playground accessory'/type thing...the communication with this seems awful and definitely not what we should be teaching children/communication is everything so I think another thing that the school should be looking at themselves to handling something badly...no 'home/school agreement' that I'm aware covers a code of playground dress for parents, so nothing that can be attempted to enforce...with things like that, then there should be open discussions first, so was there those here..?..


...I just think personally that there are so many concerns in schools atm generally, really serious concerns that children are falling through gaps and those gaps are growing and becoming huge, children and families crying out for help because of behaviour issues, mental health issues, learning difficulties..children that are suicidal...the worry that many children will leave their school life, having virtually no education at all because of the lack of funding and the lack of help available/families being told no, sorry something serious has to happen first and then we'll see ...these are real concerns that will have an effect on a whole life ...so pj parties in the playground in the grand scheme of things and silly letters about that ..well go write letters to social services, to your local MP, to Mr Cameron himself, write them about something that really is a 'growing trend' and a very serious and worrying one indeed...
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People have really well thought out, intellectual responses on here it seems and apparently I just got 'owned' off the back of them, I've heard it all now
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I watched an interview with this woman on This Morning and she said that the main reason she wrote the letter was because of the fact that some parents were coming to things like parents evenings and Christmas shows in their PJs too. That I can understand why she'd have an issue.
But the dropping off and picking up of the kids at school where the parents are literally there for about 5 minutes or less has absolutely nothing to do with her and to say that she wants other parents to set an example to other people's children when it's concerning the wearing of pyjamas is an absolute load of ****. She has no right to tell ANYONE's parents how to dress for that.
I agree with this.

If it's simple dropping kids off and driving away, then as lazy as I think it is, it's their own business.

If they're entering the school itself then the school has a right to kind of enforce a proper dress code if some people insist on venturing into public with their PJs on.
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I agree with this.

If it's simple dropping kids off and driving away, then as lazy as I think it is, it's their own business.

If they're entering the school itself then the school has a right to kind of enforce a proper dress code if some people insist on venturing into public with their PJs on.
During the interview I heard yesterday the Head did refer to parents attending parents evenings and School concerts in their PJs so I imagine this is what prompted the letter, I think its a bit selfish of parents to expect their young kids to be washed, dressed and ready for their school day when they are not even dressed themselves.

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During the interview I heard yesterday the Head did refer to parents attending parents evenings and School concerts in their PJs so I imagine this is what prompted the letter, I think its a bit selfish of parents to expect their young kids to be washed, dressed and ready for their school day when they are not even dressed themselves.
Exactly. It's not really setting any example.
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"I'm not a fan of academy schools, which this school is"

Ammi , Nice you are Honest.

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Sorry but what exactly is stopping the parents getting dressed, I presume they get dresed when they come back, its sheer slovenly laziness.

I would wager their houses are like tips
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Sorry but what exactly is stopping the parents getting dressed, I presume they get dresed when they come back, its sheer slovenly laziness.

I would wager their houses are like tips
It takes as much time to pull on a pair of jeans and a jumper as it does to pull on a dressing gown unless they sleep it get up 10 minutes earlier and have a wash

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Sorry but what exactly is stopping the parents getting dressed, I presume they get dresed when they come back, its sheer slovenly laziness.

I would wager their houses are like tips
And though I would "Bet on two raindrops running down a window pane" - I would not lay your bet because I AGREE WITH YOU.

If they are so 'pressed for time' the answer's simple - do as generations of hard-working parents have done in times which were far more austere and primitive with no modern time-saving appliances - and set the feck-ing alarm clock for 30 minutes earlier.
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Imagine if they had to be all ready for work as well as taking the kids.
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And though I would "Bet on two raindrops running down a window pane" - I would not lay your bet because I AGREE WITH YOU.

If they are so 'pressed for time' the answer's simple - do as generations of hard-working parents have done in times which were far more austere and primitive with no modern time-saving appliances - and set the feck-ing alarm clock for 30 minutes earlier.
That's far too simple, the poor dears are too exhausted to set an alarm
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W-A-S-H?

Some of these 'parents' reported receiving 'Threatening Letters' to the police because someone had pushed Palmolive Soap wrappers through their letterbox.
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There's loads of people round here who walk around in their pj's, I saw someone wearing them in asda the other day. I don't understand why they can't just get dressed into day clothes, it takes all of one minute to throw on a t shirt and some pants.

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Sorry but what exactly is stopping the parents getting dressed, I presume they get dresed when they come back, its sheer slovenly laziness.

I would wager their houses are like tips

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There's loads of people round here who walk around in their pj's, I saw someone wearing them in asda the other day. I don't understand why they can't just get dressed into day clothes, it takes all of one minute to throw on a t shirt and some pants.
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I agree with this.

If it's simple dropping kids off and driving away, then as lazy as I think it is, it's their own business.

If they're entering the school itself then the school has a right to kind of enforce a proper dress code if some people insist on venturing into public with their PJs on.
Yep agree with that too.
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You have to wonder at their personal hygiene as well, sleeping in your pj's then getting up and going to school in them, do people not get showered or even washed before they leave the house.
A couple of toothbrushes would come in handy as well going by the toothless wonder that was interviewed...I thought she must have been the grandmother until she started talking about her little one.
The fact that they turn up at concerts and parents evenings in them is a disgrace.
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You have to wonder at their personal hygiene as well, sleeping in your pj's then getting up and going to school in them, do people not get showered or even washed before they leave the house.
A couple of toothbrushes would come in handy as well going by the toothless wonder that was interviewed...I thought she must have been the grandmother until she started talking about her little one.
The fact that they turn up at concerts and parents evenings in them is a disgrace.
Get a wash and a hairbrush
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You have to wonder at their personal hygiene as well, sleeping in your pj's then getting up and going to school in them, do people not get showered or even washed before they leave the house.
A couple of toothbrushes would come in handy as well going by the toothless wonder that was interviewed...I thought she must have been the grandmother until she started talking about her little one.
The fact that they turn up at concerts and parents evenings in them is a disgrace.
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The Last Item on BBC QT
was this debate.

Making it a Laugh.

And Of Course, the Labour Transport woman
admitted wearing a dressing gown.
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