[Tarryn]

I just don't know how anyone can defend Steph.
She is vile. A spoilt little girl who needs everybody to baby her.
Jeremy is not her potential boyfriend but he is now her carer.
She would have happily let Jeremy end his time in BB & walk out with her last night without a second thought for him.
She only cares about herself. She is one of the most selfish people I think I have ever seen.
Danniella was right to tell her what she thought of her. It must be so draining having to put up with a 22 year old girl with the mentality of a toddler.
I don't think though that Danniella is doing it out of love for Stephanie I just think she is trying to sugar-coat her hatred of her.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

I just don't know how anyone can defend Steph.
She is vile. A spoilt little girl who needs everybody to baby her.
Jeremy is not her potential boyfriend but he is now her carer.
She would have happily let Jeremy end his time in BB & walk out with her last night without a second thought for him.
She only cares about herself. She is one of the most selfish people I think I have ever seen.
Danniella was right to tell her what she thought of her. It must be so draining having to put up with a 22 year old girl with the mentality of a toddler.
I don't think though that Danniella is doing it out of love for Stephanie I just think she is trying to sugar-coat her hatred of her.

Another assumption, fantasy, whatever, that you KNOW Steph would let Jeremy end his time in the house to support her...you know no such thing at all....just like the woman who said the same thing on bbots doesn't know either....

Steph didn't say that, Jeremy did....and if there's one thing I'm certain of, if Jeremy does decide to leave with her, neither Steph, the others or a herd of wild horses would stop him......he is no ones mug....
For all we know, or you know, the reason Steph stayed could be BECAUSE Jeremy said he would leave with her.....how do you know how all that panned out, we only saw a few minutes of it.

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Another assumption, fantasy, whatever, that you KNOW Steph would let Jeremy end his time in the house to support her...you know no such thing at all....just like the woman who said the same thing on bbots doesn't know either....

Steph didn't say that, Jeremy did....and if there's one thing I'm certain of, if Jeremy does decide to leave with her, neither Steph, the others or a herd of wild horses would stop him......he is no ones mug....
For all we know, or you know, the reason Steph stayed could be BECAUSE Jeremy said he would leave with her.....how do you know how all that panned out, we only saw a few minutes of it.

Most of these threads are assumptions as we don't get to watch 24 hours a day.
I did not see Steph once try to stop Jeremy from leaving with her.
Nice try at an argument though, keep trying..............

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

Most of these threads are assumptions as we don't get to watch 24 hours a day.
I did not see Steph once try to stop Jeremy from leaving with her.
Nice try at an argument though, keep trying..............

she even went onto the diary room and told big brother that her and jezz want to leave, poor lad didn't want to leave at all but she was willing to bring him down with her..not very nice at all.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

Most of these threads are assumptions as we don't get to watch 24 hours a day.
I did not see Steph once try to stop Jeremy from leaving with her.
Nice try at an argument though, keep trying..............

Most of these threads aren't assumptions at all....most people use real facts to support what they say ....you have no facts to support what you said about Steph and Jeremy leaving the house ...

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Most of these threads aren't assumptions at all....most people use real facts to support what they say ....you have no facts to support what you said about Steph and Jeremy leaving the house ...

She sat there & said Jez & I are leaving the house !
What more proof do you need ?.
Another friend would have tried to stop him.
Instead she was happy for him to leave with her.
You can only use real facts for one hour highlights.
The other 23 hours are mostly speculation without the live feed.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

She sat there & said Jez & I are leaving the house !
What more proof do you need ?.
Another friend would have tried to stop him.
Instead she was happy for him to leave with her.
You can only use real facts for one hour highlights.
The other 23 hours are mostly speculation without the live feed.

How do you know she didn't try and stop him....and how do you know she was happy about it ? You really, really don't.
There could have hours of deep discussion between the two of them before the conclusion that we were privy to was shown.
You are making assumptions

[jet]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Most of these threads aren't assumptions at all....most people use real facts to support what they say ....you have no facts to support what you said about Steph and Jeremy leaving the house ...

But...but...facts don't matter, right? Steph has shown herself to be selfish and self - centred (so many posts on this forum PROVE that) so just because she didn't say it doesn't mean anything. It's OBVIOUS that she selfishly wanted him to leave with her, the self centred little bitch.

See what I did there?

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by jet

But...but...facts don't matter, right? Steph has shown herself to be selfish and self - centred (so many posts on this forum PROVE that) so just because she didn't say it doesn't mean anything. It's OBVIOUS that she selfishly wanted him to leave with her, the self centred little bitch.

See what I did there?

Hey, it's all good....you don't have to post me if its gonna be so frustrating ....I'm not here to do that......I don't judge you for being a fan of Gemma....I can see how youre quote above uses information as a hook to interpret what is seen in a different way....I don't doubt how others see Steph...I certainly see how others disapprove of her and Jeremy...I see Steph as vulnerable and direct and light hearted...I don't see any malice there at all.. other people see a psycho who is scheming and mean....nothing I can do will change that.
Same with Gemma....you see a good person...I see a mean unkind manipulator....I see behaviour that I have seen many times in my life before from others just like her...there is nothing anyone can say that will change my opinion, nothing....I have changed my opinion on others in the house, I have seen over the weeks cracks in their armour that tells me they are fundamentally good people underneath....but nothing will change my opinion of Gemma...I'm sorry Jet....and each time BB pander to her demands, which again I can't prove but I know, they just make me and many many others like me dislike her even more.

[jet]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Hey, it's all good....you don't have to post me if its gonna be so frustrating ....I'm not here to do that......I don't judge you for being a fan of Gemma....I can see how youre quote above uses information as a hook to interpret what is seen in a different way....I don't doubt how others see Steph...I certainly see how others disapprove of her and Jeremy...I see Steph as vulnerable and direct and light hearted...I don't see any malice there at all.. other people see a psycho who is scheming and mean....nothing I can do will change that.
Same with Gemma....you see a good person...I see a mean unkind manipulator....I see behaviour that I have seen many times in my life before from others just like her...there is nothing anyone can say that will change my opinion, nothing....I have changed my opinion on others in the house, I have seen over the weeks cracks in their armour that tells me they are fundamentally good people underneath....but nothing will change my opinion of Gemma...I'm sorry Jet....and each time BB pander to her demands, which again I can't prove but I know, they just make me and many many others like me dislike her even more.

I know you'll never change your opinion of Gemma. And I wouldn't expect you too. What bothered me was that you posted things about her that didn't happen, that were untrue.
If Gemma is at fault, and the footage and her words show her at fault, and you criticized her, I wouldn't have a problem at all. If she does something bad, then she's fair game for a bashing. I just don't like things being attributed to her (or any HM) that didn't actually happen.
I'm all about the finer details. lol
So anyway, happy posting and I wish you all the best for Steph tonight.