[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i think my point was well made and obviously you seem to have understood it

The problem is that you've convinced yourself that it's an issue of hating the police and you're using desperate examples to try to downplay the police brutality angle because you don't have a counter argument for it.

Like I've said before (and you will ignore it like the other times I've said this) It's not about hating the police, it's about holding them responsible when they misuse their power. A lawful shooting incident has no bearing on an Brutality incident and vice versa.

Most police officers are perfectly fine but it's the ones that believe they are Dirty Harry that's the issue and the fact that the system protects them when they should be on trial for murder. Ignoring the problem and denying it exists is a great way of ensuring that things will only get worse.

Originally Posted by lostalex

it has everything to do with it, because the police are in a catch-22///

if they don't confront the thugs then they get accused of ignoring the community and not protecting minority communities, and when they do confront the thugs they get accused of targeting certain minorities. they can't win.

damned if they do and damned if they don't.

You're oversimplifying things to suit your point of view.

There's nothing wrong with this incident, the man drew a gun on the police and they acted appropriately. The problem is that LT is trying to say that this one incident overrides the fact that hundreds of innocent people have been executed by police officers over the past few years and they have been protected despite the fact they've murdered people.

They only get accused of Police Brutality when, you know, they actually COMMIT Police Brutality. Nobody will claim that this incident is Police Brutality but a police officer shooting a boy in a park one second after he got out of his patrol car, a unarmed man being choked to death when he posed no threat and a surrendering man being shot in the back of the head gangland style are just a few examples of the top of my head that I can think of when it comes to recent Brutality incidents. There are many more.

It's quite awful that you are ignoring the facts of these incidents to accuse the victims and their families of playing the race card.