[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

People can choose to call other people monsters even if they are not literally monsters. They can choose to call them animals, even though they are not literally animals. I can't see why you would be so concerned about the syntax of other people's comments. Terrorist, in my book, ARE monsters. Figuratively, not literally.

Trump is not a Nazi and anyone comparing him to a Nazi needs to look a little harder into what a Nazi actually is.

Also, if people mention Godwin's Law it's for a reason. The fact that you consider it to be "bleating" is neither here nor there.

So it's ok to describe someone as a monster, although they are not literally a monster.

It's OK to describe someone as an animal, although they are not literally an animal.

But if you describe someone using the terms "Hitler" or "Nazi", literally or otherwise, BZZT BZZT BZZT ALARM ALARM GODWIN GODWIN.


Is that about right?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

So it's ok to describe someone as a monster, although they are not literally a monster.

It's OK to describe someone as an animal, although they are not literally an animal.

But if you describe someone using the terms "Hitler" or "Nazi", literally or otherwise, BZZT BZZT BZZT ALARM ALARM GODWIN GODWIN.


Is that about right?

monster and animal are generic terms

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

monster and animal are generic terms

Hitler is too though now, have you never heard anyone refer to someone as a Little Hitler....not actually properly comparing them to Hitler but just to mean he's a bit Power mad?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Hitler is too though now, have you never heard anyone refer to someone as a Little Hitler....not actually properly comparing them to Hitler but just to mean he's a bit Power mad?

Not in the instance of this thread

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Not in the instance of this thread

But the thread topic - which you wrote yourself - specifies "comparing" and not "equating". And so we come back to my suggestion from earlier; that some people are confused, and don't realise that there is a (significant) difference between these two terms.

It's a common mistake of course. The vast majority of the time when people say "Oh no, you can't compare X to Y!" or "X and Y just do not compare!" they do in fact mean "equate". You can compare anything to anything else. Such is the nature of comparison.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

So it's ok to describe someone as a monster, although they are not literally a monster.

It's OK to describe someone as an animal, although they are not literally an animal.

But if you describe someone using the terms "Hitler" or "Nazi", literally or otherwise, BZZT BZZT BZZT ALARM ALARM GODWIN GODWIN.


Is that about right?

I'm wasting my time here.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm wasting my time here.

You are, yes.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You are, yes.

I know.

You will stick rigidly to your opinion, crack "jokes" etc. in an effort to mask the fact that you cancel out one of your opinions with another. It's amusing.... but a time waster.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

I know.

You will stick rigidly to your opinion, crack "jokes" etc. in an effort to mask the fact that you cancel out one of your opinions with another. It's amusing.... but a time waster.

I think I explained quite clearly why that is not the case; the fact that you don't understand (perhaps by inability, though I suspect by choice) isn't really of any concern to me.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I think I explained quite clearly why that is not the case; the fact that you don't understand (perhaps by inability, though I suspect by choice) isn't really of any concern to me.

You write something I can't comprehend. How likely do you think that is?

Maybe you're not quite grasping my meaning?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

You write something I can't comprehend. How likely do you think that is?

100% likely, on account that it has happened on this thread. Although as I said, I suspect the "misunderstanding" is probably by choice and you are in fact well aware that there is no contradiction.