[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

I can see a serious meltdown coming on here when andrew wins.

Helen Wood already set a precedent for horrid bigots winning anyway?

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Helen Wood already set a precedent for horrid bigots winning anyway?

Helen was a bully not a bigot. People really do have a problem with that word

Andrew would be one of the greatest winners ever. I believe he can do it.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Helen was a bully not a bigot.

It is possible to be both.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

It is possible to be both.

It is but she wasn't both. She was just an out and out aggressive nasty bully. Bigot has a precise definition that doesn't apply to her or andrew.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

It is but she wasn't both. She was just an out and out aggressive nasty bully. Bigot has a precise definition that doesn't apply to her or andrew.

In what way does it not apply to Helen? She was completely intolerant of others.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

In what way does it not apply to Helen? She was completely intolerant of others.

Not really in terms of opinions though. She just has some sort of anti social personality disorder in my opinion. To call her a bigot is as pointless as calling Hitler an adulterer. It ain't his main drawback.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Not really in terms of opinions though. She just has some sort of anti social personality disorder in my opinion. To call her a bigot is as pointless as calling Hitler an adulterer. It ain't his main drawback.

Who said it was her "main" drawback? That's another discussion entirely.

The point was we already have a precedent for a bigot winning therefore if Andrew won it wouldn't make him not a bigot.

Very simple.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

It is but she wasn't both. She was just an out and out aggressive nasty bully. Bigot has a precise definition that doesn't apply to her or andrew.

But it applies to us?

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Helen was a bully not a bigot. People really do have a problem with that word

Andrew would be one of the greatest winners ever. I believe he can do it.

uhm yknow bully and bigot arent mutually exclusive.. Helen can be a bully and a bigot...

u also believe he's not a bigot even though she is?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Helen was a bully not a bigot. People really do have a problem with that word

Andrew would be one of the greatest winners ever. I believe he can do it.

What are you basing that on. Hes had so close to zero airtime.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Withano

What are you basing that on. Hes had so close to zero airtime.

Sorry, I feel too annihilated to address this.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Sorry, I feel too annihilated to address this.

Oh good. Not completely deluded, just mostly.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Helen was a bully not a bigot. People really do have a problem with that word

Andrew would be one of the greatest winners ever. I believe he can do it.

Tbf as a Helen fan she did have an issue with Irish people.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf as a Helen fan she did have an issue with Irish people.

And again, that isn't what bigoted means.

[Ant.]

so did thriceshy win this debate like he does with most debates or

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Helen Wood already set a precedent for horrid bigots winning anyway?

Helen Wood was uneducated and unsophisticated so was not able to express herself without emotion and was not able to convey what she meant in anything resembling an acceptable way ....Andrew is intelligent and articulate and measured....there really is no comparison .....and Helen didn't win, she was fast tracked to the final by default ...if Andrew wins it will solely be because the public admire and respect him....not because he shagged someone like Marco does or because he couldn't hold his sh-t together like Natalie....if he wins it be out of respect for actually being someone smart enough to play the game for once

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Helen Wood was uneducated and unsophisticated so was not able to express herself without emotion and was not able to convey what she meant in anything resembling an acceptable way ....Andrew is intelligent and articulate and measured....there really is no comparison .....and Helen didn't win, she was fast tracked to the final by default ...if Andrew wins it will solely be because the public admire and respect him....not because he shagged someone like Marco does or because he couldn't hold his sh-t together like Natalie....if he wins it be out of respect for actually being someone smart enough to play the game for once

If you wanted to go off topic all you had to do was create a new thread my love.