[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

While I can agree with most of what you say there, it is I think unfair the criticism you make of the person you are getting at again.
Her views areas relevant as anyone elses and just because they are at odds with yours does not make them ill informed or erroneous.

This was the problem in the USA election which must have turned off many voters there by the personal slurs on the other by each candidate.
Neither gained any moral high ground there.

However how the EU gets in here is a little mystifying but Kirk, we are all Joe Public, not just you and those you know personally.
Also the other Joe Publics equally will have people they know well, are acquaintances or who they just know of such as you list as who voted leave, who also voted remain.

You haven't a monopoly on those groups, just as no one else has who is Joe public.
The people who voted remain, also know what they voting foe, Joe public and all the groups who did so that you list.

I do have to say, I asked many questions on here just as to what leaving meant and no leave voter told me anything concrete.
The only answer I got was they didn't want the EU making our laws.
Remain voters in my view voted for the status quo,knowing how all was and would not liekly change.
Leave voters probably voted for different reasons, some just for change, some for making our own laws, some immigration, some as to the single market and some for all of those things probably too.
Not all however.

So,I wanted to try to heed what others were saying opposite to me but I got nothing concrete at all,that could persuade me that the UK would do better out of the EU.
If I could have believed that, I would have thought about my vote more.
I listened to what you and most said,( when they were not personally insulting about it).
I was one who also realised remain was not going to win and in fact kept telling you that leave would get a result.

Anyway, all the people and groups you list that you know who voted to leave is fine but that is not the only story.
Those who voted remain probably the majority of them too have the same sets of people and professions they know, and know of as well who also voted as they did,remain too.
We are all Joe public however, not just you and those you know who think like you do.
Just as I am Joe public and those I know are not the only Joe public either.
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Kirk did state 'in my opinion' before stating that the posters views on this subject on here are 'Ill informed' and 'erroneous'.A perfectly valid opinion to hold.
And he was not saying that he has some kind of 'monopoly' on knowing people of different professions.
He is replying to a very bold statement that is attempting to imply that people who voted to leave the EU are somehow 'ill informed' and are about to get some kind of big 'kick in the nads' that somehow Mystic Kizzy knows about and all of us uninformed dummies who voted to leave are totally ignorant to.
He is offering a rebuttal to this by giving examples of people from all different walks of life and all members of 'Joe public'(as all of us are) who made an informed decision when they cast their vote.