[Ammi]

..I also think..(going back to my other post..)...if this/Kirk's ban is connected to the gummibear thread...(I can't believe I'm typing about gummi bear threads with something so serious and causing so much discord..)...that over the last few days, there has been quite a bit of discussion between members in that thread and actually really positive discussion in discussing any SD section issues so steps forward../and ok maybe a bit of a step backward happened as well but that's always going to happen also with something that has reached this level of frustration for so many, including staff... but those steps forward and the discussions and conversations that have taken place are the real thing of importance and in Kirk being banned now, I feel that's going to be counter-productive and carrying on building on what has been talked about and just be another cause in it carrying on.../more frustrations being added and more bad feelings, is really not what any of it needs right now...