[jaxie]

It was a nomination and Kim had every right not to discuss it. They all bitch and moan that Jedward can't take criticism, not a peep at Nicole for being unable to take it. Hypocrites and Nicole the biggest of all.

[Northern Monkey]

Kim played it well there.Managed to make herself look like a victim.

[JTM45]

Love the way the Kim fans just skirt over the very basic issue here.
A lie is a black & white thing. It's not a matter of opinion.
You've either lied or you haven't and if someone's gonna' call you a liar then they have to be prepared to state what you lied about or they end up looking like a lying twat themselves............like Kim did.
Nicola knows the show and she's not gonna' call Kim out if she knows she has lied because she's very aware that BB would just show her lying, which they didn't because she obviously hadn't. Basic!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Love the way the Kim fans just skirt over the very basic issue here.
A lie is a black & white thing. It's not a matter of opinion.
You've either lied or you haven't and if someone's gonna' call you a liar then they have to be prepared to state what you lied about or they end up looking like a lying twat themselves............like Kim did.
Nicola knows the show and she's not gonna' call Kim out if she knows she has lied because she's very aware that BB would just show her lying, which they didn't because she obviously hadn't. Basic!

So why is being called a liar by someone who you don't like any worse than any other reasons people have given? Nicola needs to get over herself

[Kazanne]

Nicola lied,she told Spiedi Kim said she was a bad mother,NO,Kim did NOT say she was a bad mother,so Nicola lied,what don't people get about that?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Nicola lied,she told Spiedi Kim said she was a bad mother,NO,Kim did NOT say she was a bad mother,so Nicola lied,what don't people get about that?

yeah there's a massive difference between saying stop swearing your kids are watching, to you're a bad mother

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Love the way the Kim fans just skirt over the very basic issue here.
A lie is a black & white thing. It's not a matter of opinion.
You've either lied or you haven't and if someone's gonna' call you a liar then they have to be prepared to state what you lied about or they end up looking like a lying twat themselves............like Kim did.
Nicola knows the show and she's not gonna' call Kim out if she knows she has lied because she's very aware that BB would just show her lying, which they didn't because she obviously hadn't. Basic!

Aye, pretty obvious that Kim made it up.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Aye, pretty obvious that Kim made it up.

Nicola LIED fact.

[Liam-]

I hate people that state their opinions yet don't have the guts to back it up with solid proof, Kim made herself look like a dick, Nicola never lied about what Kim said.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Nicola lied,she told Spiedi Kim said she was a bad mother,NO,Kim did NOT say she was a bad mother,so Nicola lied,what don't people get about that?

Kim could have said it without it being shown in the HL's...Not that I care either way.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I hate people that state their opinions yet don't have the guts to back it up with solid proof, Kim made herself look like a dick, Nicola never lied about what Kim said.

It was her nomination reason, she owed no explanation to anyone just like everyone else who's nominations were shown on the screen

[chuff me dizzy]

She clearly HAS lied and good on Kim by not telling her how,it wound Nicola up and made her look stupid

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

She clearly HAS lied and good on Kim by not telling her how,it wound Nicola up and made her look stupid

Between that argument with Kim and her slithering around Speidi like an idiot she's made herself look a right moron

[Northern Monkey]

I don't like either of them but for me if you're gonna accuse someone of being a liar then be prepared to back it up and don't be shocked if they get you to explain why.Of course Kim doesn't have explain but she shouldn't be one bit surprised about the reaction she got.
If i called anyone in here a liar i'd bet you'd be straight on me to back that **** up.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It was her nomination reason, she owed no explanation to anyone just like everyone else who's nominations were shown on the screen

Of course she doesn't have to explain her reason, but like Northern Monkey just said, people shouldn't be surprised by her reaction, if someone wrongly calls someone a liar, then they should expect to be asked to back it up, if they want to or not is their choice, but the reaction is reasonable.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I don't like either of them but for me if you're gonna accuse someone of being a liar then be prepared to back it up and don't be shocked if they get you to explain why.Of course Kim doesn't have explain but she shouldn't be one bit surprised about the reaction she got.
If i called anyone in here a liar i'd bet you'd be straight on me to back that **** up.

If it were on a normal day maybe but why is being called a liar so much worse than any of the other reasons people gave as nomination reasons? If Jedward had demanded to know why Nicola for example called them sneaky, they would have been shouted down by the whole house and told to stop being so defensive and that it was her reason. I just don't like this one rule for Nicola and one rule for other people in there, that pisses me off

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by jaxie

It was a nomination and Kim had every right not to discuss it. They all bitch and moan that Jedward can't take criticism, not a peep at Nicole for being unable to take it. Hypocrites and Nicole the biggest of all.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Of course she doesn't have to explain her reason, but like Northern Monkey just said, people shouldn't be surprised by her reaction, if someone wrongly calls someone a liar, then they should expect to be asked to back it up, if they want to or not is their choice, but the reaction is reasonable.

her reaction was totally unreasonable, what on earth? She shouted and ranted like a crazy person and it was all a performance for Speidi imo, i don't believe Nicola really cares that much if some old lady who she hates calls her a liar

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I don't like either of them but for me if you're gonna accuse someone of being a liar then be prepared to back it up and don't be shocked if they get you to explain why.Of course Kim doesn't have explain but she shouldn't be one bit surprised about the reaction she got.
If i called anyone in here a liar i'd bet you'd be straight on me to back that **** up.

Originally Posted by Liam-

Of course she doesn't have to explain her reason, but like Northern Monkey just said, people shouldn't be surprised by her reaction, if someone wrongly calls someone a liar, then they should expect to be asked to back it up, if they want to or not is their choice, but the reaction is reasonable.

Then if no explanation was forthcoming it would be reported I'm sure.

[Nancy.]

Originally Posted by azi

I think it was about Nicola saying that Kim said that Nicola was a bad mother or something. I watched back during the face to face nominations and Kim did not say that. She said that she shouldn't swear if her kids are watching.

EXACTLY.

Nicole said in her nomination: "Kim said my children are not proud of me", but she didn't say that at all. Proof that Nicole IS in FACT a liar. Kim should've relayed this back to her but I can understand why she didn't while being bullied and bombarded with insults.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Nancy Littlebottom

EXACTLY.

Nicole said in her nomination: "Kim said my children are not proud of me", but she didn't say that at all. Proof that Nicole IS in FACT a liar. Kim should've relayed this back to her but I can understand why she didn't while being bullied and bombarded with insults.

She couldn't have had a reasonable conversation with Nicola the state she was in last night, ranting and raving like some kind of lunatic

[Nancy.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

She couldn't have had a reasonable conversation with Nicola the state she was in last night, ranting and raving like some kind of lunatic

So true, Nicole was revelling in the fact that she had an audience around her. I really felt sorry for Kim during that moment.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

If it were on a normal day maybe but why is being called a liar so much worse than any of the other reasons people gave as nomination reasons? If Jedward had demanded to know why Nicola for example called them sneaky, they would have been shouted down by the whole house and told to stop being so defensive and that it was her reason. I just don't like this one rule for Nicola and one rule for other people in there, that pisses me off

Well i think that's just down to the dynamics of the house.Jedward aren't 'ganghanded' like NicoleIf Jedward had the support of the others then maybe they'd have called Nicole out for calling them sneaky and asked her to explain it.But to me if someone's gonna call you a liar or sneaky then you are well within your right to ask them why or even take offence to it.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Nancy Littlebottom

So true, Nicole was revelling in the fact that she had an audience around her. I really felt sorry for Kim during that moment.

I think this is probably true aswell.I don't blame Nicole for calling Kim out on it but i think she also made it a 'big thing' with everyone watching because she was ashamed of herself for how she handled the Speidi situation.She almost knelt down and kissed their feet.She totally submitted.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Well i think that's just down to the dynamics of the house.Jedward aren't 'ganghanded' like NicoleIf Jedward had the support of the others then maybe they'd have called Nicole out for calling them sneaky and asked her to explain it.But to me if someone's gonna call you a liar or sneaky then you are well within your right to ask them why or even take offence to it.

The whole double standards of it all just really annoy me, you're either allowed question peoples nominations or you're not. By Nicolas own accusations towards other people, she is being defensive and has no right to question Kim, that's her own logic