[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

If i was on a sinking ship I honestly couldn't imagine kicking a kid out of a lifeboat to save myself.I don't think i could live with myself after.

It's not the same thing and none of us know how we would act coming from a situation like that. I just think judging people who have seen and experienced s**t that none of us could even imagine is a bit, well, I just think it's wrong really, we don't know how lucky we are. I have nothing but sympathy for all these people. It's a bit high horse-ish to judge anyone in a situation like that when we were so lucky really to have been born where we were

[Ronald.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's not the same thing and none of us know how we would act coming from a situation like that. I just think judging people who have seen and experienced s**t that none of us could even imagine is a bit, well, I just think it's wrong really, we don't know how lucky we are. I have nothing but sympathy for all these people. It's a bit high horse-ish to judge anyone in a situation like that when we were so lucky really to have been born where we were

Here here niamh. R.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's not the same thing and none of us know how we would act coming from a situation like that. I just think judging people who have seen and experienced s**t that none of us could even imagine is a bit, well, I just think it's wrong really, we don't know how lucky we are. I have nothing but sympathy for all these people. It's a bit high horse-ish to judge anyone in a situation like that when we were so lucky really to have been born where we were

What do you mean none of us, i would die to save a kid

Im sure loads know they would as well.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

What do you mean none of us, i would die to save a kid

Im sure loads know they would as well.

Words and actions are two different things, people always believe they'd do the heroic thing if the opportunity to arose but most people, in reality, would just watch from the sidelines.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Words and actions are two different things, people always believe they'd do the heroic thing if the opportunity to arose but most people, in reality, would just watch from the sidelines.

Luckily im not most people.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Luckily im not most people.

Words are easy.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Words are easy.

So you wouldnt give your child an organ to save them if it meant you dying?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

So you wouldnt give your child an organ to save them if it meant you dying?

That's a completely different scenario to the one you described before? 'Dying to save a kid' is a world away from 'giving your child an organ at the expense of your own life'. You can't switch the goalposts like that to suit your argument.

The vast majority of people would not give their lives for a child that isn't theirs', like I said before, most people are destined to be observers, not heroes.

A person's own child on the other hand is completely different, a sizable amount of parents have the biological need to protect their children at all costs, a lt of parents would sacrifice themselves if it meant their child could live.

Not quite sure what any of this has to do with the thread mind, nor why the discussion has shifted to me.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by parmnion

What do you mean none of us, i would die to save a kid

Im sure loads know they would as well.

You'd be surprised at how much self-preservation would kick in, even if it was against a child.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's not the same thing and none of us know how we would act coming from a situation like that. I just think judging people who have seen and experienced s**t that none of us could even imagine is a bit, well, I just think it's wrong really, we don't know how lucky we are. I have nothing but sympathy for all these people. It's a bit high horse-ish to judge anyone in a situation like that when we were so lucky really to have been born where we were

I see what you are saying and its a good point but I kind of disagree for reasons I've stated that they were already in Europe anyway so relatively safe and that people aren't always selfish when it comes to kids.

I had a situation once where a rogue firework (rocket) flew into the house and straight at a group of children (party). I dived in front and pushed them out of the way, shielding them. Completely instinct and not something I ever thought about doing but it made me realise that it can be instinct to do the right thing. I hasten to add my own child wasn't in the direct line of fire either. So I don't really agree that people always put themselves first.