[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I don't really see how this is different to the many many posters who claim that people won't win because they aren't white. Every year we get it. Raph (from memory) has spoke about this before.

I kind of feel like if it had been anyone but Isabelle winning, the usual 'its just because they are white!!!' excuses would be used here. Its just as Isabelle was so popular with the forum that this 'curse' thing is being ridiculed now Its been said for years and year, and everytime theres a winner that some posters dislike...its used.

This member does have a personal issue with raph btw

But exactly raph isn’t the only one to do it and it wasn’t hardly an issue but why is it an issue now :s

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by LukeB

This member does have a personal issue with raph btw

But exactly raph isn’t the only one to do it and it wasn’t hardly an issue but why is it an issue now :s

If you want to dismiss my criticisms bc "well of course Macie feels that way, he doesn't like Raph" then just read most of the other posts in this thread bc it's the same sentiment.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

If you want to dismiss my criticisms bc "well of course Macie feels that way, he doesn't like Raph" then just read most of the other posts in this thread bc it's the same sentiment.

I’m only saying the truth and vicky’s point proves it wasn’t an issue before when other people say it but raph said it’s an issue. There’s even a thread about this stuff and most people agreed.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by LukeB

I’m only saying the truth and vicky’s point proves it wasn’t an issue before when other people say it but raph said it’s an issue. There’s even a thread about this stuff and most people agreed.

With regards to Vicky's point, I think it's absolutely possible to acknowledge that while people of color tend to be at a disadvantage on BBUK, not every person of color loses because they are black or Asian or whatever else. Again, Isabelle winning had everything to do with Isabelle and The Game that she played, possibly without even being aware of it. Raph got outplayed, not out-whited.

You can call it the truth (TM), but your point about me disliking Raph prior to the show can just as well be applied to you having your head up his ass before he went onto the show. It works both ways hun...x