[Niamh.]

You don't touch someone's arse like that though banter or not

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You don't touch someone's arse like that though banter or not

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Pretty sure they would've first met in the jungle? And he said "me and Nicola aren't the best of friends", so it's clear that this isn't something usual and a friendly greeting... it was obviously the first time he did it to her, and even if they were the best of friends, it's still completely innappropriate

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You don't touch someone's arse like that though banter or not

There's touching someone's arse and there's a cheeky bum slap...two totally different things.
Nicola McLean can be very flirtatious when it suits her...she can also turn on someone if she thinks they are out of line. Coming from her and bringing it up now is Nicola jumping on the 'victim' bandwagon for publicity IMO.
I'm not condoning it but she's no shrinking violet...and there are REAL victims out there...too close to home in my case.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

There's touching someone's arse and there's a cheeky bum slap...two totally different things.
Nicola McLean can be very flirtatious when it suits her...she can also turn on someone if she thinks they are out of line. Coming from her and bringing it up now is Nicola jumping on the 'victim' bandwagon for publicity IMO.
I'm not condoning it but she's no shrinking violet...and there are REAL victims out there...too close to home in my case.

I can't stand Nicola she behaves like such a bitch, every time i see her on tv she's always argumentative and moaning about something like some spoilt self obsessed twonk .

Notice how nobody cared when Ashley Roberts grabbed Helen Flanagan's boob in the jungle when she wore that silly leopard bra , double standards all round .
The media hysteria revolving sexual harassment has gotten so out of hand that every man on telly is seen as a potential predator . And career's can be destroyed all from hearsay while protecting the alleged "victim" , while the accused get's named and shamed all the time .

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You don't touch someone's arse like that though banter or not

And yet many women can grab a man's bum ,pinch it and slap it all in the name of "fun" and nobody bats an eyelid . David van day comes across a bit of a slime ball but Nicola just wants a piece of the media action, she's a fame hungry idiot ! . She didn't have a Problem with putting her hands all over Jamie O' Hara in CBB despite being a married woman , she even enjoyed hearing about a dirty dream he had about her .

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

And yet many women can grab a man's bum ,pinch it and slap it all in the name of "fun" and nobody bats an eyelid . David van day comes across a bit of a slime ball but Nicola just wants a piece of the media action, she's a fame hungry idiot ! . She didn't have a Problem with putting her hands all over Jamie O' Hara in CBB despite being a married woman , she even enjoyed hearing about a dirty dream he had about her .

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

And yet many women can grab a man's bum ,pinch it and slap it all in the name of "fun" and nobody bats an eyelid . David van day comes across a bit of a slime ball but Nicola just wants a piece of the media action, she's a fame hungry idiot ! . She didn't have a Problem with putting her hands all over Jamie O' Hara in CBB despite being a married woman , she even enjoyed hearing about a dirty dream he had about her .

No they can't

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

No they can't

Then why do I see it happen and people laugh or don't take it seriously? . If a man did those things in the name of "banter" people would still question him and treat him like a pervert and you know I'm right.

And this doesn't include friends having a joke with each other , it includes situations like David Van day , if Nicola slapped his bum then everyone would be on the floor laughing .

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Then why do I see it happen and people laugh or don't take it seriously? . If a man did those things in the name of "banter" people would still question him and treat him like a pervert and you know I'm right.

And this doesn't include friends having a joke with each other , it includes situations like David Van day , if Nicola slapped his bum then everyone would be on the floor laughing .

I never see that happen

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I never see that happen

Btw im a woman myself . On reality TV there seems to be something along those lines especially on BB . Didn't a guy from Baywatch get kicked out for opening a woman's bathrobe?? , and few years ago on the non celebrity version didn't somebody get removed for flashing another man .

Now why do those people get removed?? When they were both clearly drunk AF , yet Chloe from Geordie shore or wherever the hell she's from rubbed her bare arse cheeks on one of jedward and BB just gave her a warning .

And some American girl kept grabbing callum best's private bits through his trousers uninvited yet it's okay ? , I think it's disgusting for anyone to inappropriately grab someone especially when the person is clearly uncomfortable by it . But women get a pass when they do it .

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Btw im a woman myself . On reality TV there seems to be something along those lines especially on BB . Didn't a guy from Baywatch get kicked out for opening a woman's bathrobe?? , and few years ago on the non celebrity version didn't somebody get removed for flashing another man .

Now why do those people get removed?? When they were both clearly drunk AF , yet Chloe from Geordie shore or wherever the hell she's from rubbed her bare arse cheeks on one of jedward and BB just gave her a warning .

And some American girl kept grabbing callum's bits through his trousers uninvited yet it's okay ? , I think it's disgusting for anyone to inappropriately grab someone especially when the person is clearly uncomfortable by it . But women get a pass when they do it .

The thing is, Aaron didnt' just 'flash' Joel. I'm pretty sure he was whipping out his dick and I'm pretty sure his dick actually made contact with Joel (like I'm sure Aaron tried to hug Joel naked? that night was just a blur) which warrants an ejection, no way about it, especially given how creepy Aaron was being towards Joel in the days leading up to the ejection

I oddly don't remember the Calum or Chloe/Jedward moments you're mentioning, but I'll go along with them, and I'll add in an example of my own: Marnie showing her breasts right in front of Saira's face last year. All three are rude and disgusting to do, yes, but there's never been an instance were a man has been ejected for doing the same thing.

Has a man got ejected for rubbing his ass on someone? No. Has a man got ejected for flashing his chest in front of someone else? No.

I would agree fully that it is double standards if a man got ejected for doing the same things a woman has that didn't get ejected, but that hasn't happened yet. For example, a woman's never flashed or grinded her vagina onto someone else, which is why a woman's never been ejected for sexual assault.

Watching the Jasmine and Calum seen back, which was uncomfortable to watch (and Calum seemed very uncomfortable at the same time), my only possible reason as to why Jasmine wasn't ejected was because Calum didn't react, unlike Chloe in CBB15. If Calum reacted, then no doubt Jasmine would've gotten into ****, and I'm sure if Chloe didn't react to Jeremy opening her robe, Jeremy wouldn't have been ejected. Jeremy was probably removed because Chloe would've obviously felt very uneasy being around him rather than the fact he sexually assaulted her, if Jasmine remaining in the house after doing a similar thing to Calum is to go by.

That said, double standards do exist, and I'm not saying men aren't victims of sexual assault - at all. Just that there's never been a situation that parallels between two sexes on BB which suggest there is a double standard. Plus, I don't really see how double standards against men is an argument to be made here. This was clearly sexual harrassment, and if the roles were reversed, it still would be, even if people disagreed. But rather than making an issue over something hypothetical, e.g. "people wouldn't class it as sexual harassment if it was the other way around" (spoiler alert: many would), let's focus on the real issue that people truly believe she was 'asking for it' by dressing in a bikini