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Originally Posted by Jamie89

A transexual has to go through hormone treatment and/or surgery to be considered transexual though do they not? Maybe I'm just overcomplicating things but I'm talking about transgender people who would otherwise be transexual, who are the same in every other way, but for various reasons can't or are afraid to have the treatments and surgeries.



I know this but that's not what a lot religious people would argue. It's much the same thing for me because I don't believe in either case that rights are being taken away (I don't think the 'right' is having a sex segregarted area, the 'right' is having a safe environment, and the difference being that I don't think sex segregation = safety, whereas advocates for sex segration tend to base it on that, so it's a difference in opinion of what actually constitutes safety and whether non segregated areas would actually be less safe... but the actual cause and 'rights' is about safety of women, sex segregation just being a possible means to that.)

I think sex segregation equals ‘safer’ not to mention more comfortable. Nothing is 100% safe but as any man claiming to self-identify can go into the ladies toilets it is less safe for women. Sex attacks on women are a huge problem in Britain, probably most places, and something women have to be aware of and therefore live with all their lives.

Women/girls want to feel safer in that environment and I could not understand why anyone would want to deny them that. They will undoubtedly be at more risk if any man or men can enter the ladies toilets at any time unchallenged.