[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Nope. A transsexual has sex dysphoria., Whatever stage of transition they are at, they are still transsexual. They are obviously not 'post op' transsexual until they have the ops and such, but transsexual just means people with sex dysphoria.

Ok fair enough, I think I'm getting myself confused with all the different labels and definitions :/

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I already know we disagree on this so its pointless us keep to-ing and fro-ing about sex segregation tbh

I would say that sex segregation IS a means to safety (and dignity) in itself for women* (dignity for men too, not necessarily safety for them) and taking this away is taking away their rights to safety. Women can challenge that shifty looking dude who is hanging around the changing rooms, making it law that any man who declares himself a woman...would mean a woman who challenged this bloke is committing a hate crime.

*given crime stats say men are a danger to women (not all men, and such disclaimer)

If a shifty looking man was hanging around the changing rooms and not using them I'd assume he'd still be able to be reported, regardless of how he identifies he'd be reported just for being shifty and hanging around a changing room, it would have nothing to do with gender so I don't think hate crime wouldn't come into that.

I also don't think that sex segregation = privacy/dignity. You can have a non sex segregated area that is cubicled and private, just as you get sex segregated areas that are open and non private. But yeah we probably have already discussed this 3 times already actually