[Livia]

Originally Posted by Lynette69

On this word constructed ... does that mean a so called straight man wouldn't sleep with a woman who had had breast reconstruction then because surely just by definition they would have been constructed? In fact any kind of cosmetic surgery ....

No. Because women have the XX chromosome and men have the XY chromosome and no amount of surgery or counselling will ever change that.

It's nothing to do with surgery, it's nothing to do with liking someone or wanting them to do well. It's about not being attracted to someone who has the same set of chromosomes that I have.

And I'm sure everyone on here questioning me, and it seems you're all gay or bi, right? You have my blessing to sleep with whoever the hell it is you're attracted to and afford me the same courtesy.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The question in the OP suggests you would know from the get go, you can move the goalposts and add in all other variables which is what is happening here, in truth unless it has actually happened to us none of us know what we would do if we didn't know from the outset but that is not the question

Yes, but discussing why doesn't seem entirely offtopic. No point making a new thread for that side question, calm down.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Lynette69

Wait I'm not the only crip in the village ... ohhhh that's new !!!!!

Welcome to the forum

[Lynette69]

Lol ty lilbro x

[Livia]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

You and the fear of a constructed penis, lol snunday afternoon on the tibb forum, more tea vicar?

Leave me alone, Sheriff. I don't find your sleaze amusing.

[Lynette69]

I do not knock preference ... what I do question is the word constructed ... and really u want to use genetics etc ? Sorry not had enough caffeine yet .. brew anyone ?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Lynette69

I do not knock preference ... what I do question is the word constructed ... and really u want to use genetics etc ? Sorry not had enough caffeine yet .. brew anyone ?

I'm with you. It is hard to believe that Livia has a chromosome fetish.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Livia

Leave me alone, Sheriff. I don't find your sleaze amusing.

I Would not call it sleaze but never mind.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

It is a personal choice, but others like LT clarified that he is turned off by big hands and big feet, which is fair enough, thats his personal choice. Your personal choice (and Livia's) seems to be with the word trans itself being the turn off... which seems more your problem than theirs?

You can try to turn personal choice into someone’s ‘problem’ when it suits an agenda but that is your problem.

[Lynette69]

Btw I'm not straight or gay or whatever I'm me faults strengths the blinking lot !!!

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Lynette69

I do not knock preference ... what I do question is the word constructed ... and really u want to use genetics etc ? Sorry not had enough caffeine yet .. brew anyone ?

They construct a penis. It is not a natural penis. It's not complicated.... so please lets not bring this interesting and important discussion down to semantics.

And yes, I really want to use genetics. Because it's relevant.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

You can try to turn personal choice into someone’s ‘problem’ when it suits an agenda but that is your problem.

I simply asked you to answer a question, and even clarified in my post that you wasnt wrong in your answer, you dont have to discuss your preference if you dont want to. But I've concluded from your posts that you wouldnt date a trans because of the word trans, now I'm asking if I'm right or wrong? You dont need to get defensive.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Yes, but discussing why doesn't seem entirely offtopic. No point making a new thread for that side question, calm down.

Calm down I was making a point should I run it by you first before I post as you seem to want to veto mainly females right to post

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Lynette69

Btw I'm not straight or gay or whatever I'm me faults strengths the blinking lot !!!

Who are you talking to?

You are bi, aren't you? You said so earlier.

[Lynette69]

And there endeth the reason that in 2018 the struggle for all equality still goes on cos it's 'our problem'. Oh dear ...

[Lynette69]

For the purpose of the discussion I used a label given to me but in truth I'm just me ...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Withano

I simply asked you to answer a question, and even clarified in my post that you wasnt wrong in your answer, you dont have to discuss your preference if you dont want to. But I've concluded from your posts that you wouldnt date a trans because of the word trans, now I'm asking if I'm right or wrong? You dont need to get defensive.

And there you go again, no one is irate, no one is defensive just responding to posts, you are however not very tolerant and extremely judgy

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Lynette69

On this word constructed ... does that mean a so called straight man wouldn't sleep with a woman who had had breast reconstruction then because surely just by definition they would have been constructed? In fact any kind of cosmetic surgery ....

Many men are turned off by plastic boobs. Is that not allowed?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Calm down I was making a point should I run it by you first before I post as you seem to want to veto mainly females right to post

Your point was dont make side questions in threads?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Withano

I simply asked you to answer a question, and even clarified in my post that you wasnt wrong in your answer, you dont have to discuss your preference if you dont want to. But I've concluded from your posts that you wouldnt date a trans because of the word trans, now I'm asking if I'm right or wrong? You dont need to get defensive.

And I've concluded from your posts that you're demanding women explain themselves at length.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Your point was dont make side questions in threads?

My point was goal posts were being moved from the original question

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Cherie

And there you go again, no one is irate, no one is defensive just responding to posts, you are however not very tolerant and extremely judgy

He is indeed. He is also quick to accuse others of the same. One rule and all that.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

And there you go again, no one is irate, no one is defensive just responding to posts, you are however not very tolerant and extremely judgy

I have to agree. I've found this conversation quite hostile, and the claims that you are irate or you need to calm down, are made only to wind you up. What a shame.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Livia

And I've concluded from your posts that you're demanding women explain themselves at length.

No not at all, your answers didnt make sense to me, so I wanted to clarify if I was right. LT's answer did make sense to me. I don't care what gender yoh are, many men may answer the same way as you, and I'd ask them the same questions, some women may answer in a similar way to LT, and I'd understand where theyre coming from.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

So up until the point of sleeping with someone... you’d form a relationship with them and then all of a sudden they just become unattractive?

I am willing to answer this. I man be attracted to a transman sure, some of them do pass very well. But would not be sleeping with someone who looked like a man who had a vagina. Nor one of the fake penises as they look ridiculous and of course you can tell. The neovaginas look a bit more convincing (depending on surgeon) but its still vastly different to the real thing and I expect someone with a lifetime experience of shagging vagina-d people would know that a neovagina is not anything like a vagina in anything bar looks. Smell, feel, everything is very different.